Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jul 31, 2019, 9:36 am
#2356
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
Book when you have the means to do it. That fare won't be going down. At most you just lose the I(ndia) class availability on any flight/s you specifically wish.
On JV fares such as the one you're talking about, it's down to which carrier's flight code can be used for TATL segments and connecting segments in the US. BA coded or operated and IB coded and operated flights are of course counted towards any BAEC status threshold, so a BA coded AA flight e.g. AMS-PHL might be of more interest, would you be short on qualifying flights (which you probably aren't anyway with a trip to HI). Furthermore it's of relevance for any BAEC tier based Avios earning.
From a practical point of view, depending on the routing, an AA ticketed itinerary will give more room to suggest any solution to the customer service, would any flights be cancelled or reschuled - especially prior the start of the trip. IB is the least flexible ticketing partner out of the JV carriers. BA is quite decent, but AA is the more flexible one, depending on how you work things out.
From a practical point of view, depending on the routing, an AA ticketed itinerary will give more room to suggest any solution to the customer service, would any flights be cancelled or reschuled - especially prior the start of the trip. IB is the least flexible ticketing partner out of the JV carriers. BA is quite decent, but AA is the more flexible one, depending on how you work things out.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:48 am
#2357
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: GGL/CCR
Posts: 1,899
im kinda unsure if im right here, right now or i should go to the find me a cheap ba fare thread.
anyways:
thats what i have found, thats what i want.
question of the day: should i book now at this price or should I wait?
question 2: aa or ba ticket? i havent quite understood the pros and cons of aa and ba ticketing... is there a thread where all the ups and downs are listed?
anyways:
thats what i have found, thats what i want.
question of the day: should i book now at this price or should I wait?
question 2: aa or ba ticket? i havent quite understood the pros and cons of aa and ba ticketing... is there a thread where all the ups and downs are listed?
Jul 31, 2019, 9:49 am
#2358
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,254
HNL / OGG come and go, I'd aim for £1,400-1,500
Jul 31, 2019, 10:18 am
#2359
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
Jul 31, 2019, 10:31 am
#2360
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: DFW or GOT or...
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott GFL
Posts: 819
. ....
Last edited by LCSinTexas; Jul 31, 2019 at 10:42 am
Jul 31, 2019, 10:42 am
#2361
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
what i am for? a holiday in Hawaii ex-EU and enough TP to get 2500 TP+
what do i need: 670 TP
what do i want to pay: as less as possible
Last edited by Nephoi; Jul 31, 2019 at 10:59 am
Jul 31, 2019, 11:16 am
#2362
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,606
670 tps is acheivable from ARN (Stockholm) to Hawaii
There hasn't been a £1400-1500 fare for about two or three years ex-EU. There was a Cairo one, with its own issues...
Jul 31, 2019, 11:25 am
#2363
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
You'll not earn 2500 tps for anything from ex-EU unless its around the planet in business perhaps twice.
670 tps is acheivable from ARN (Stockholm) to Hawaii
There hasn't been a £1400-1500 fare for about two or three years ex-EU. There was a Cairo one, with its own issues...
670 tps is acheivable from ARN (Stockholm) to Hawaii
There hasn't been a £1400-1500 fare for about two or three years ex-EU. There was a Cairo one, with its own issues...
Jul 31, 2019, 11:33 am
#2364
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: GGL/CCR
Posts: 1,899
You'll not earn 2500 tps for anything from ex-EU unless its around the planet in business perhaps twice.
670 tps is acheivable from ARN (Stockholm) to Hawaii
There hasn't been a £1400-1500 fare for about two or three years ex-EU. There was a Cairo one, with its own issues...
670 tps is acheivable from ARN (Stockholm) to Hawaii
There hasn't been a £1400-1500 fare for about two or three years ex-EU. There was a Cairo one, with its own issues...
Jul 31, 2019, 11:35 am
#2365
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
seems there is a broad consensus here that i should wait and pull the trigger somewhere way below 2k EUR.
thanks all.
oh my god, i hate waiting...
thanks all.
oh my god, i hate waiting...
Jul 31, 2019, 11:49 am
#2366
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,499
Jul 31, 2019, 2:16 pm
#2367
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 478
)I personally don't see Honolulu as a fun destination, rather as an overpriced nuisance (*cough* thankfully most readers in this subforum aren't from the 48, the buyed one or the illegally captured one 
) for longhaul BAEC TP runs and mainly beachlife. However I do intend to visit the islands for the WWII and Hawaiian kingdom sites at some point, not just for TPs.
Now Batavia however sounds more like proper urban destination. I've been looking at doing CGK at some point with either SV or UL, but so far my travels have been elsewhere. My FFP status credit runs are always surprising even to myself in terms of what kind of trips they entail along with the flights.
Last BAEC membership year it was e.g. a Chevy Silverado in the mountains of Oregon and getting Liberation Day tipsy at a pub, this current membership year it's going to be a bloody (well, actually literally this time) railroad bridge in the hinterlands of Thailand and is rounded up saying hello to uncle Ulyanov, so that I get a GUF2 (capitalism at work ).
) for longhaul BAEC TP runs and mainly beachlife. However I do intend to visit the islands for the WWII and Hawaiian kingdom sites at some point, not just for TPs.Now Batavia however sounds more like proper urban destination. I've been looking at doing CGK at some point with either SV or UL, but so far my travels have been elsewhere. My FFP status credit runs are always surprising even to myself in terms of what kind of trips they entail along with the flights.
Last BAEC membership year it was e.g. a Chevy Silverado in the mountains of Oregon and getting Liberation Day tipsy at a pub, this current membership year it's going to be a bloody (well, actually literally this time) railroad bridge in the hinterlands of Thailand and is rounded up saying hello to uncle Ulyanov, so that I get a GUF2 (capitalism at work ).But that's not even the point.
As I view it, the AUH-CMB-CGK run is set, some price ups-and-downs and that's it - no playing around. On the other hand one can have A LOT of fun building the right intinerary with the CMB-XXX-XXX-HNL fare. Trying to get the right aircraft (Qsuite on all four QR legs, new BA Business class - just to name a few) and building an interesting (=fun) routing along with not-so-bad-cities to stop-over e.g. Paris, Milan, Barcelona, London.
This stuff is much more appealing than trying to do b2b(s) or to get the flat bed instead of an angled seat on UL.
At least for me, YMMV.
Last edited by alp67; Jul 31, 2019 at 2:30 pm
Jul 31, 2019, 3:05 pm
#2368
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,254
Aug 1, 2019, 2:08 am
#2369
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: LAX
Programs: NW 1MM, BD Gold, BA Gold, AA 1MM, LM, VX eleVAte, Hyatt D6, SPG Plat, Hertz President's
Posts: 304
Would be positioning to AMS via miles.
Yeah, I was considering this as well. Just hate to waste the 800 TP I've built up, but see that I'd have to basically get the 700 TP now, then another 1500 TP next year as well.
Since I've got a month of status after expiration of my TP Year, is the JER-AUH-CGK my best option in the next ~60 days, or are there others you would suggest? Can easily do the SFO-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-SFO runs, but they only net 240 TP nowadays and they're kinda a haul -- but you DO stay on the same timezone.
Appreciate all the help! ^
Surely better to drop a rung and get the status back as quick as possible next year? It's a bit wasteful to try to generate 700 TPs and then have them zeroed, and doing it next TP year gets you two years status, you can then pick and choose better fares and runs. Can do this with the UL fare to Jakarta from Abu Dhabi with a couple of shuttles plus positioning from LAX and if you position on BA and maybe start from INV or JER to AUH you'll get the 4 flights too. In WT+ it's not expensive, and UUA is usually possible.
Since I've got a month of status after expiration of my TP Year, is the JER-AUH-CGK my best option in the next ~60 days, or are there others you would suggest? Can easily do the SFO-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-SFO runs, but they only net 240 TP nowadays and they're kinda a haul -- but you DO stay on the same timezone.
Appreciate all the help! ^
Aug 1, 2019, 2:09 am
#2370
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,606
There's been plenty of £1300-1500 ex-ARN/CDG/OTP sales to the west coast of the US, but I cannot recall seeing an ex-EU to Hawaii for under £1500 for a long long time.