Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jun 2, 2019, 2:04 pm
#1846
Moderator, Hertz; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KRK
Programs: UA 1MM, BA GGL, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond and others
Posts: 12,689
A random search for Sep (does it still count summer?) got this CAI-HNL trip, which will get you 1'200 tp for $US 2'500
You might wanna play around and adjust dates and flight times / connections to your liking.
EDIT: Just realized the AS segment, which will give zero tp. So with this one you're looking at 1'060 tp only.
You could route thru WAS though and get the 1'200 tp, similar price (43'600 EGP) possible on certain dates.
You might wanna play around and adjust dates and flight times / connections to your liking.
EDIT: Just realized the AS segment, which will give zero tp. So with this one you're looking at 1'060 tp only.
You could route thru WAS though and get the 1'200 tp, similar price (43'600 EGP) possible on certain dates.
Jun 2, 2019, 4:59 pm
#1847
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,707
Jun 2, 2019, 10:11 pm
#1848
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,747
That and 3/4 of the prices I've looked at seem to range from Ł1200-Ł2000+ for a simple trip.
Yes there are some in the Ł600 range for PTY, SJU, SJO, MGA and CUN, but at lot of the time, they cost ŁŁŁŁ.
Does put you off exploring these places, even if only using a local hotel for a night, when you can do so much more for your money elsewhere.
(Having had a quick look, quite a few options later in the year for around Ł772. LAX-LAS-MIA-PTY v.v. but not 100% sure if LAS-MIA is >2000 miles)
Not saying I wouldn't do something like LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-MCO-LAX for 400TP if it were going cheap. Still could be around Ł1.50/TP at the right time.
Handy to nest inside one of the OTP-xxx runs for Gold etc.
Yes there are some in the Ł600 range for PTY, SJU, SJO, MGA and CUN, but at lot of the time, they cost ŁŁŁŁ.
Does put you off exploring these places, even if only using a local hotel for a night, when you can do so much more for your money elsewhere.
(Having had a quick look, quite a few options later in the year for around Ł772. LAX-LAS-MIA-PTY v.v. but not 100% sure if LAS-MIA is >2000 miles)
Not saying I wouldn't do something like LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-MCO-LAX for 400TP if it were going cheap. Still could be around Ł1.50/TP at the right time.
Handy to nest inside one of the OTP-xxx runs for Gold etc.
Last edited by xenole; Jun 2, 2019 at 10:21 pm
Jun 2, 2019, 11:53 pm
#1849
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,075
That and 3/4 of the prices I've looked at seem to range from Ł1200-Ł2000+ for a simple trip.
Yes there are some in the Ł600 range for PTY, SJU, SJO, MGA and CUN, but at lot of the time, they cost ŁŁŁŁ.
Does put you off exploring these places, even if only using a local hotel for a night, when you can do so much more for your money elsewhere.
(Having had a quick look, quite a few options later in the year for around Ł772. LAX-LAS-MIA-PTY v.v. but not 100% sure if LAS-MIA is >2000 miles)
Not saying I wouldn't do something like LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-MCO-LAX for 400TP if it were going cheap. Still could be around Ł1.50/TP at the right time.
Handy to nest inside one of the OTP-xxx runs for Gold etc.
Yes there are some in the Ł600 range for PTY, SJU, SJO, MGA and CUN, but at lot of the time, they cost ŁŁŁŁ.
Does put you off exploring these places, even if only using a local hotel for a night, when you can do so much more for your money elsewhere.
(Having had a quick look, quite a few options later in the year for around Ł772. LAX-LAS-MIA-PTY v.v. but not 100% sure if LAS-MIA is >2000 miles)
Not saying I wouldn't do something like LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-MCO-LAX for 400TP if it were going cheap. Still could be around Ł1.50/TP at the right time.
Handy to nest inside one of the OTP-xxx runs for Gold etc.
Jun 3, 2019, 6:31 am
#1850
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,577
There are ~€65 fares one way on the LATAM MAD-FRA route next Feb and March, findable on SkyScanner. Reasonable ~Ł1.4/TP run.
Jun 3, 2019, 6:54 am
#1851
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
Posts: 1,844
A bit more information:
- Weird availability, at least on Google Flights - I was seeing lots of availability even into March-April but it seems to have gone.
- Returns seemed to be available on some combinations of dates for Ł145 (e.g 4 day trip on 6th Feb).
- The outbound arrives 5pm in FRA, the return leg into MAD at 10pm.
Jun 3, 2019, 3:25 pm
#1852
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 677
TP run to Grand Cayman
Hi
I’m a TP run newbie and I’m not really confident using the ITA matrix so I would appreciate your help working out a TP run to Grand Cayman. Can start ex-EU and go the long way round the US to get there.
Many thanks.
NW
I’m a TP run newbie and I’m not really confident using the ITA matrix so I would appreciate your help working out a TP run to Grand Cayman. Can start ex-EU and go the long way round the US to get there.
Many thanks.
NW
Jun 3, 2019, 4:57 pm
#1853
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
If you're looking at a particular destination, it's hardly what one would usually call a TP run. You're more like looking for a premium cabin fare assumably, while also earning some TPs. GCM isn't exactly TP run friendly in terms of fares now. Furthermore: there's a dedicated thread for fare and routing assistance. Never the less, looks like it will be well above 2000 €/person, depending on the time of the year and other factors.
Jun 4, 2019, 12:49 am
#1854
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 677
If you're looking at a particular destination, it's hardly what one would usually call a TP run. You're more like looking for a premium cabin fare assumably, while also earning some TPs. GCM isn't exactly TP run friendly in terms of fares now. Furthermore: there's a dedicated thread for fare and routing assistance. Never the less, looks like it will be well above 2000 €/person, depending on the time of the year and other factors.
Jun 4, 2019, 12:53 am
#1855
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,033
The other thread - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...eta-draft.html - is for your query of "help me find a good TP run"
Jun 4, 2019, 2:33 am
#1856
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
The TP run wikipost and post #1 contain some good advice for how to find a fare suitable for going to GCM and how to maximise TPs. It's not that much a matter of understanding Matrix. Personally I used ExpertFlyer for a quick look for a fare and my logic is very much the same as explained in post #1 , but you can play around with Matrix to find the most suitable starting point in Continental Europe. If you've read this thread, you've noticed that JV fares TATL have now a standard set of two European transfers and two American transfers permitted. There's exceptions, but it's the easiest starting point for playing around with Matrix and the legs in your itinerary, without using also e.g. ExpertFlyer. And like I said: the wikipost and post #1 contain what you need.
And yes, I did construct something, but I'm not exactly happy to share it, because I think this thread is slowly becoming cluttered and people are less inclined to help themselves. But okay, this time only...
If Philly isn't nice, do something else instead. I just threw it in instead of the typical NYC layovers. And the same goes for MIA, as you can do CLT instead, as AA serves GCM from there as well (besides certain other AA hubs, which however are irrelevant in this case).
Jun 4, 2019, 11:51 am
#1857
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Miami FL
Programs: BA GGL , HH Gold, UA Plat
Posts: 30
I need to go to Asia at the end of June and was wondering if anyone could help me find a more cost effective way of flying. Currently I have found flights leaving OSL-SIN on June 26th and returning from SIN to OSL on August 8th for 1463 GBP. This is on Qatar as I am keen to optimize TP as well. While the dates are pretty fixed I am happy to fly out of anywhere ex EU and HKG SIN BKK ect as my final destination will be PVG.
Below is a link to the most optimal flights I have found so far:
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=O...;sd:1;t:b;tt:m
Thanks so much for your help, the majority of you are better at this that me so id appreciate any help I could get!
Below is a link to the most optimal flights I have found so far:
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=O...;sd:1;t:b;tt:m
Thanks so much for your help, the majority of you are better at this that me so id appreciate any help I could get!
Jun 4, 2019, 12:41 pm
#1858
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: oneworld, * Alliance, Marriott Bonvoy, HHonors, WoH
Posts: 2,120
I need to go to Asia at the end of June and was wondering if anyone could help me find a more cost effective way of flying. Currently I have found flights leaving OSL-SIN on June 26th and returning from SIN to OSL on August 8th for 1463 GBP. This is on Qatar as I am keen to optimize TP as well. While the dates are pretty fixed I am happy to fly out of anywhere ex EU and HKG SIN BKK ect as my final destination will be PVG.
Below is a link to the most optimal flights I have found so far:
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=O...;sd:1;t:b;tt:m
Thanks so much for your help, the majority of you are better at this that me so id appreciate any help I could get!
Below is a link to the most optimal flights I have found so far:
https://www.google.com/flights#flt=O...;sd:1;t:b;tt:m
Thanks so much for your help, the majority of you are better at this that me so id appreciate any help I could get!
Jun 4, 2019, 2:28 pm
#1859
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,237
Welcome to the Find me a good BA fare ticket clinic.
This is essentially for BA / BA codeshares and partner only. If your booking is essentially on Qatar, Qantas, AA or anyone else, please go to those forums and pursue the matter there. These forums have good subject matter experts to hand.
This is essentially for BA / BA codeshares and partner only. If your booking is essentially on Qatar, Qantas, AA or anyone else, please go to those forums and pursue the matter there. These forums have good subject matter experts to hand.
Jun 4, 2019, 3:05 pm
#1860
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Miami FL
Programs: BA GGL , HH Gold, UA Plat
Posts: 30
I did read the posts above. However, there is no such forum for requests specific to Qatar and as I would like to get as many tier points as possible, I thought I would ask for help here as there doesn't seem to be another appropriate place. If I am incorrect I would be grateful if someone could point me to the correct location to post this question.