Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Apr 17, 2019, 2:03 pm
#1456
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,583
Here's an example.
https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en...42*2.GBP.57342
If you enter that into the multibooking tool you should find it's directly bookable. You can also start (skip JER) and end the trip in heathrow after OTP for 120TP less and about Ł421 which would be silver in two weekends for just under a grand less anything you can graft out with price promise.This example is on the same dates as the first, but obviously you have to find another weekend to do it.
https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en...26*2.GBP.43026
https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en...42*2.GBP.57342
If you enter that into the multibooking tool you should find it's directly bookable. You can also start (skip JER) and end the trip in heathrow after OTP for 120TP less and about Ł421 which would be silver in two weekends for just under a grand less anything you can graft out with price promise.This example is on the same dates as the first, but obviously you have to find another weekend to do it.
https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en...26*2.GBP.43026
Apr 22, 2019, 2:05 am
#1458
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold (woohoo)
Posts: 189
Following on, and to (hopefully) contribute to the knowledge base, this seems to be the best I can find out there right now:
920 tps @ Ł1.68. Not quite as good as Bisonrav's LUX shuffle, but this routing avoids LUX entirely!!!
You can add 40 pts by going out via HEL but no flights from London connect to the 12:45 flight to JFK so that adds another night to the itinerary. I did notice that you can go HEL to MAN to LON on the return if you drop the MAD shuffle on the way out, which may help someone whilst maintaining the 920 tp total. I don't think it is possible to depart PHX via LAX in time to connect with either the HEL or MAD flights back, which forces the night into LA, but I'd prefer to spend a night by Venice beach rather than in PHX as it is August! I also don't think you can get from MAD to PHX on the same day either, but by splitting the itinerary into 6 blocks you can control the length of the layover in LAX and spend as much time there (versus PHX) as you want.
I quite like that you can try the Iberia and Finnair transatlantic products, and you can get 920 tps (plus positioning) in under a week. If you live in London, it only needs 3 hotel nights away too, which means the true TP/Ł rate is very competitive as well.
Here's to keeping the TP run thread on page one of the BA board!
920 tps @ Ł1.68. Not quite as good as Bisonrav's LUX shuffle, but this routing avoids LUX entirely!!!
You can add 40 pts by going out via HEL but no flights from London connect to the 12:45 flight to JFK so that adds another night to the itinerary. I did notice that you can go HEL to MAN to LON on the return if you drop the MAD shuffle on the way out, which may help someone whilst maintaining the 920 tp total. I don't think it is possible to depart PHX via LAX in time to connect with either the HEL or MAD flights back, which forces the night into LA, but I'd prefer to spend a night by Venice beach rather than in PHX as it is August! I also don't think you can get from MAD to PHX on the same day either, but by splitting the itinerary into 6 blocks you can control the length of the layover in LAX and spend as much time there (versus PHX) as you want.
I quite like that you can try the Iberia and Finnair transatlantic products, and you can get 920 tps (plus positioning) in under a week. If you live in London, it only needs 3 hotel nights away too, which means the true TP/Ł rate is very competitive as well.
Here's to keeping the TP run thread on page one of the BA board!
Last edited by Keep it Riel; Apr 22, 2019 at 2:14 am Reason: Clarity
Apr 22, 2019, 4:13 am
#1459
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
CAI-HNL 1020 TP's Ł2112 Ł2.07/TP
Following some playing around with CAI-HNL and help upthread understanding how the current fare rules work here's an example of what's possible.
Just to note : This CANNOT be put together on ITA Matrix. I checked for various options through Expertflyer for fare availability.
This itinerary earns 1020 TP's (7*140 + 1*40) and for me is beneficial as minimises time off work. Converts to Ł2112 approx.
There is very little availability in I class from LAX-JFK and HNL-DFW is long-haul 777 with lie flat seats for the overnight back to mainland, which is preferable anyway.
It's possible to move the last sector out to break the journey however this incurs additional cost - typically another Ł160 or so.
Fare basis INNC00S2 / RNNC00S2 (the above example is a mix of I outbound, R inbound. I don't know why the inbound is in R though)
No advance purchase requirements
No minimum stay
Maximum stay 12 months
Selection of important fare rules below:
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT
ANY HA FLIGHT.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII
AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN MIDDLE
EAST AND UNITED KINGDOM/SPAIN ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
STOPOVERS ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON
THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT USD 300.00
EACH.
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
1 IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND 8 AT USD 125.00/CAD
125.00 EACH.
2 FREE NOT PERMITTED IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE PERMITTED AT ANY OTHER POINT IN EACH
DIRECTION
4 IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 125.00/CAD 125.00
EACH.TRANSFERS 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA BA ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED BETWEEN BA AND IB IN EUROPE IN
EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED VIA IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND AA/BA/IB IN
EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/
JFK IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/
PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN
HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED VIA AA/BA/IB ONLY IN UNITED
STATES/CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION.
Just to note : This CANNOT be put together on ITA Matrix. I checked for various options through Expertflyer for fare availability.
This itinerary earns 1020 TP's (7*140 + 1*40) and for me is beneficial as minimises time off work. Converts to Ł2112 approx.
There is very little availability in I class from LAX-JFK and HNL-DFW is long-haul 777 with lie flat seats for the overnight back to mainland, which is preferable anyway.
It's possible to move the last sector out to break the journey however this incurs additional cost - typically another Ł160 or so.
Fare basis INNC00S2 / RNNC00S2 (the above example is a mix of I outbound, R inbound. I don't know why the inbound is in R though)
No advance purchase requirements
No minimum stay
Maximum stay 12 months
Selection of important fare rules below:
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT
ANY HA FLIGHT.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII
AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN MIDDLE
EAST AND UNITED KINGDOM/SPAIN ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
STOPOVERS ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON
THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT USD 300.00
EACH.
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
1 IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 5 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND 8 AT USD 125.00/CAD
125.00 EACH.
2 FREE NOT PERMITTED IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE PERMITTED AT ANY OTHER POINT IN EACH
DIRECTION
4 IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 125.00/CAD 125.00
EACH.TRANSFERS 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA BA ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED BETWEEN BA AND IB IN EUROPE IN
EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED VIA IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND AA/BA/IB IN
EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/
JFK IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/
PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN
HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED VIA AA/BA/IB ONLY IN UNITED
STATES/CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION.
Apr 22, 2019, 4:28 am
#1460
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: DFW or GOT or...
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott GFL
Posts: 819
A little OT maybe, but thank you for posting fares like the two above.
Last edited by LCSinTexas; Apr 22, 2019 at 4:49 am
Apr 22, 2019, 8:04 am
#1461
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 172
Great Club Europe fares available to Bordeaux right now, as low as 142 GBP return with same day (non-BTB) even possible on some dates eg 13 Jan 2020. Ł1.77/TP with no positioning costs for those in the London area. Flights out of LGW. Use the BA low fares finder for availability (not 100% accurate mind you). Even in winter a marvelous place to visit!
Apr 22, 2019, 9:33 am
#1462
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,190
Following some playing around with CAI-HNL and help upthread understanding how the current fare rules work here's an example of what's possible.
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This itinerary earns 1020 TP's (7*140 + 1*40) and for me is beneficial as minimises time off work. Converts to Ł2112 approx.
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This itinerary earns 1020 TP's (7*140 + 1*40) and for me is beneficial as minimises time off work. Converts to Ł2112 approx.
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rb211.
Apr 22, 2019, 10:44 am
#1463
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,895
Great Club Europe fares available to Bordeaux right now, as low as 142 GBP return with same day (non-BTB) even possible on some dates eg 13 Jan 2020. Ł1.77/TP with no positioning costs for those in the London area. Flights out of LGW. Use the BA low fares finder for availability (not 100% accurate mind you). Even in winter a marvelous place to visit!
As always, a great way to check for these is to look at the cheapest fare finder on the ba app.
Apr 22, 2019, 11:05 am
#1464
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, EK Gold, VS Gold, HH Diamond , Marriott Gold , IHG Plat
Posts: 129
INV to LAS - Better than 720TP
I have seen the existing INV to LAS fare via LON JFK LAX and work out its 720TP for about Ł1.3k. I have used ITA Matrix and wondered if there was anyway to max out on additional TP via HEL or otherwise. When I add HEL to the routing it says 'no fare'. For the fare I get its about Ł1.8 per TP - is that the best value I will get for that?
Apr 22, 2019, 11:06 am
#1465
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Somewhere in the Air
Programs: BA GGL, *A Silver, OW Emerald, HH Diamond, Karahi Express
Posts: 554
There seems to be an unannounced CE sale for selected routes atm. Some more mentioned on TLfL https://www.turningleftforless.com/b...class-flights/
As always, a great way to check for these is to look at the cheapest fare finder on the ba app.
As always, a great way to check for these is to look at the cheapest fare finder on the ba app.
Apr 22, 2019, 11:16 am
#1466
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,895
I have seen the existing INV to LAS fare via LON JFK LAX and work out its 720TP for about Ł1.3k. I have used ITA Matrix and wondered if there was anyway to max out on additional TP via HEL or otherwise. When I add HEL to the routing it says 'no fare'. For the fare I get its about Ł1.8 per TP - is that the best value I will get for that?
The only thought I have is whether you can do INV-MAN-LHR as I think there is a BA codeshare on the Loganair INV-MAN flight. I couldn't get it to work on itamatrix but you would only get 20 TPs per INV-MAN flight as there is no J cabin.
Apr 22, 2019, 11:39 am
#1467
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 172
As per an earlier post i was able to route INV-LHR-MAN-PHL-LAX-LAS to extract an extra 80 TPs, found on matrix and booked over the phone with BA
Apr 22, 2019, 11:42 am
#1468
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
Apr 22, 2019, 11:47 am
#1469
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,895
Apr 22, 2019, 11:52 am
#1470
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 172
Almost certainly when i looked at least on Matrix it seemed possible to route using AA flights from various European cities (Amsterdam springs to mind)