Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Mar 22, 2019, 2:53 am
#1141
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
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Posts: 13,033
Shame that AMS deal was pulled before the announcement of the double Avios promo. That would have been a lucrative TP run.
Mar 22, 2019, 2:58 am
#1142
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 932
Don't forget that another quick way to check whether you are running up against fare/routing rules problems or availability issues is to run the search on Matrix with the "Only show flights and prices with available seats" option turned off. If that still comes back with a price that makes you take a deep breath then the problem is almost certainly something to do with the fare rules (or routing rules).
Last edited by GinFizz; Mar 22, 2019 at 3:00 am Reason: fixed the "quote" code
Mar 22, 2019, 3:25 am
#1143
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,426
Don't forget that another quick way to check whether you are running up against fare/routing rules problems or availability issues is to run the search on Matrix with the "Only show flights and prices with available seats" option turned off. If that still comes back with a price that makes you take a deep breath then the problem is almost certainly something to do with the fare rules (or routing rules).
CAI-LHR // HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR // HEL-LHR-CAI where // denotes a stopover
You can also do
CAI-LHR // HEL-LHR-LAX-DFW-HNL...
Mar 22, 2019, 4:04 am
#1144
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 932
...
Looking at the fare rules I can't see where it's tripping up from I to D:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA BA ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
...
Any advice appreciated. I will dig into the fare rules some more! I can't find mileage restrictions in there though.
Thanks.
Looking at the fare rules I can't see where it's tripping up from I to D:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA BA ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION
...
Any advice appreciated. I will dig into the fare rules some more! I can't find mileage restrictions in there though.
Thanks.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT
ANY HA FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT
ANY HA FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT.
Mar 22, 2019, 5:23 am
#1145
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: JER
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 812
Just booked LGA-DCA-ROC o/w in AA First on May 15, booking into I class (so business TPs) - 80 TPs for Ł119.50, not bad at all.
Mar 22, 2019, 9:24 am
#1146
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PHL
Posts: 71
Looks like many same day options in May.
The fare rule says NYC-ROC. I tried searching from EWR and JFK as well and did not see any with the same price.
Saw a bunch of cheap Delta fares so guess they are attacking them?
Mar 22, 2019, 4:49 pm
#1147
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,325
US airlines call it "hidden city ticketing". We call it "shopping".
Mar 23, 2019, 8:51 am
#1148
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 7
So I've done it - booked my first TP run! I've opted for the AUH / CGK run. Got a good deal with BA to AUH - economy out, business back without breaking the bank or my avios balance!
I'm still debating as to whether to do a cheap local run to see somewhere nice or whether to add a quick turn around to HKG on Cathay to try out their A350-1000 night flight from Jakarta.
If I do - all in it'd be 1,000 points for Ł1,967 ....from what I've been reading that isn't bad.
Travelling 22-27 April. If anyone is travelling around then give me a shout!
I'm still debating as to whether to do a cheap local run to see somewhere nice or whether to add a quick turn around to HKG on Cathay to try out their A350-1000 night flight from Jakarta.
If I do - all in it'd be 1,000 points for Ł1,967 ....from what I've been reading that isn't bad.
Travelling 22-27 April. If anyone is travelling around then give me a shout!
Mar 23, 2019, 9:23 am
#1149
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,072
So I've done it - booked my first TP run! I've opted for the AUH / CGK run. Got a good deal with BA to AUH - economy out, business back without breaking the bank or my avios balance!
I'm still debating as to whether to do a cheap local run to see somewhere nice or whether to add a quick turn around to HKG on Cathay to try out their A350-1000 night flight from Jakarta.
If I do - all in it'd be 1,000 points for Ł1,967 ....from what I've been reading that isn't bad.
Travelling 22-27 April. If anyone is travelling around then give me a shout!
I'm still debating as to whether to do a cheap local run to see somewhere nice or whether to add a quick turn around to HKG on Cathay to try out their A350-1000 night flight from Jakarta.
If I do - all in it'd be 1,000 points for Ł1,967 ....from what I've been reading that isn't bad.
Travelling 22-27 April. If anyone is travelling around then give me a shout!
Mar 23, 2019, 10:55 am
#1150
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: LON
Programs: BA GFL, OW Gold, CX/MP Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 258
Hi Guys.
I am missing 780 TPs to reach 8000 by 31/04.... Any idea how to achieve this in 3-4 days max for Ł1600?
I am missing 780 TPs to reach 8000 by 31/04.... Any idea how to achieve this in 3-4 days max for Ł1600?
Mar 23, 2019, 11:27 am
#1151
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold (woohoo)
Posts: 189
Anyone had any of those "Super Flash Sale" fares ex-Ams cancelled?
Mar 23, 2019, 11:48 am
#1152
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: T' North West
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 654
Mar 23, 2019, 12:36 pm
#1153
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, AA Lifetime Gold 1.8mm, IC Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold et al
Posts: 4,350
I booked one on Thursday morning which shows on both BA and AA websites. On the latter site it is categorised as “ticketed”. The only slightly odd thing is that my credit card statement hasn’t yet shown the payment which is a tad unusual.
EDIT 24/3: Payment has now been taken from my credit card.
Last edited by Blueboys999; Mar 23, 2019 at 11:36 pm
Mar 23, 2019, 1:01 pm
#1154
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold (woohoo)
Posts: 189
Is there a particular reason why you have asked that question?
I booked one on Thursday morning which shows on both BA and AA websites. On the latter site it is categorised as “ticketed”. The only slightly odd thing is that my credit card statement hasn’t yet shown the payment which is a tad unusual.
Mar 23, 2019, 1:21 pm
#1155
Join Date: Jan 2005
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OK. I will certainly post if I encounter any issues with it but I have no concerns in terms of my booking being cancelled in these circumstances.