Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
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Old Mar 9, 2019, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by dnw
Would you be able to link to a working example of this please? thanks!
A very quick whizz with Matrix turns this up. Excuse bad formatting. There may be better options with a bit more effort

London (LHR) to New York (JFK) — Tue, Dec 24American 6138Dep: 8:25 amArr: 11:30 am8h 5mBoeing 747Business (I)
Layover in JFK3h 0mNew York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Tue, Dec 24American 341Dep: 2:30 pmArr: 5:44 pm6h 14mAirbus A321 (Sharklets)Business (I)

Layover in LAX0h 46mLos Angeles (LAX) to San Diego (SAN) — Tue, Dec 24American 6073Dep: 6:30 pmArr: 7:19 pm0h 49mEmbraer RJ-175Economy (Y)OPERATED BY COMPASS AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLESan Diego (SAN) to London (LHR) — Tue, Dec 31San Diego (SAN) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Tue, Dec 31American 6062Dep: 6:15 amArr: 7:02 am0h 47mEmbraer RJ-175First (I)OPERATED BY COMPASS AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLELayover in LAX0h 58mLos Angeles (LAX) to New York (JFK) — Tue, Dec 31American 307Dep: 8:00 amArr: 4:35 pm5h 35mAirbus A321 (Sharklets)Business (I)New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Tue, Dec 31American 6139Dep: 6:55 pmArr: 6:50 am6h 55mBoeing 777Business (I)
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYSWed, Jan 1
Mileage
  • 12,034 total miles
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) Ł1,503.72 Total cost for 1 passenger Ł1,503.72
Can someone remind me how many TPs this earns? I haven't needed to do this for years
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Old Mar 9, 2019, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by small em
A very quick whizz with Matrix turns this up. Excuse bad formatting. There may be better options with a bit more effort

Can someone remind me how many TPs this earns? I haven't needed to do this for years
140+140+40 each way. Total 640TP.
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Old Mar 9, 2019, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by small em
A very quick whizz with Matrix turns this up. Excuse bad formatting. There may be better options with a bit more effort



Can someone remind me how many TPs this earns? I haven't needed to do this for years
Lhr mad jfk lax san lax jfk mad Lhr is the best option i see here.

Question 1: any ideas on improving this?
question 2: any reports on the Iberia 330 business class?
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Old Mar 9, 2019, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Nephoi


Lhr mad jfk lax san lax jfk mad Lhr is the best option i see here.

Question 1: any ideas on improving this?
question 2: any reports on the Iberia 330 business class?
2) I like them very much,. private single seats available, spacey.. hard product is superior to BA unless u want a couple seat… soft product is in my opinion better on BA after they got the new Catering. but still quite nice
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by Nephoi


Lhr mad jfk lax san lax jfk mad Lhr is the best option i see here.

Question 1: any ideas on improving this?
question 2: any reports on the Iberia 330 business class?
MAD-HAV a couple of years ago, we absolutely loved Iberia business class, better seat, better food and better wine than BA.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by Vasco Pridat
2) I like them very much,. private single seats available, spacey.. hard product is superior to BA unless u want a couple seat… soft product is in my opinion better on BA after they got the new Catering. but still quite nice
Originally Posted by strickers
MAD-HAV a couple of years ago, we absolutely loved Iberia business class, better seat, better food and better wine than BA.
okay.
so it'll be LHR-MAD-JFK-LAX-SAN-LAX-JFK-MAD-LHR.

Still the question about the TP-improvement. HEL seems not possible
one more question popped in my head:

I think i want to travel over New Year('s Eve). Which option seems better? New Years Eve in one of the cities or celebrating with a glass of champagne in the airplane?
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by Nephoi
okay.
so it'll be LHR-MAD-JFK-LAX-SAN-LAX-JFK-MAD-LHR.

Still the question about the TP-improvement. HEL seems not possible
one more question popped in my head:

I think i want to travel over New Year('s Eve). Which option seems better? New Years Eve in one of the cities or celebrating with a glass of champagne in the airplane?
Can you not work in 12 hours in JFK and spend NY in Times Square?
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by strickers
Can you not work in 12 hours in JFK and spend NY in Times Square?
i dont get any earlier flights ex SAN-LAX on this date.. i just dont know why.

JFK-MAD return leg can be AA 777 or IB 330. i thought i chosse the AA 777 to have them both....
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 3:42 am
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One alternative can be to switch hotel overnight at LAX, take a red-eye LAX-JFK, and have a JFK hotel at day-rate for resting to be fit for the party to come. The transcon is of course lie-flat in Business, but expect 4h of sleep, and some extra sleep before the big eve might suit you. Since you still need a hotel for the night too, either make reservation for both nights arriving midnight, later changing to 07.00 or when you'll be there. Personally, I would probably split that to one JFK day rate hotel and NYE in a city hotel. IME, hotels in NYC are very costly over this holiday. But experiencing a NYE in the Big Apple once is worth it.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by onobond
One alternative can be to switch hotel overnight at LAX, take a red-eye LAX-JFK, and have a JFK hotel at day-rate for resting to be fit for the party to come. The transcon is of course lie-flat in Business, but expect 4h of sleep, and some extra sleep before the big eve might suit you. Since you still need a hotel for the night too, either make reservation for both nights arriving midnight, later changing to 07.00 or when you'll be there. Personally, I would probably split that to one JFK day rate hotel and NYE in a city hotel. IME, hotels in NYC are very costly over this holiday. But experiencing a NYE in the Big Apple once is worth it.
i dont get those routings in the matrix.
either the price goes up to 3.5 k or there isnt any flight. did you have any luck with the matrix?
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 4:29 am
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Originally Posted by Nephoi
i dont get those routings in the matrix.
either the price goes up to 3.5 k or there isnt any flight. did you have any luck with the matrix?
Haven't checked Matrix for your full itinerary, as I'm on my phone, prefer the more complicated stuff on the laptop.

What I can see by searching for available flights is that I fare seats are available on the following flights, all on 30 December:

SAN-LAX
AA6035 15.15-16.02
AA3007 18.05-18.52
AA6073 19.55-20.42

LAX-JFK
AA010 21.00-05.37+
AA028 22.25-07.01+

Try searching with desired flights specified to find out if the price changes.
Good luck!
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 4:40 am
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Hi I was trying to book this itinerary but cant find it - can you help ? - thanks
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 4:54 am
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Hi I was trying to book this itinerary but cant find it - can you help ? - thanks
i was trying to book this via the ba phone or Propeller-Travel. - a 24+ hrs stop in NYC prices up to 3.5k
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by Nephoi
i dont get any earlier flights ex SAN-LAX on this date.. i just dont know why.

JFK-MAD return leg can be AA 777 or IB 330. i thought i chosse the AA 777 to have them both....
Problem is there is very little I class availability that day from LAX-JFK.
Nothing on the 9am or 1030am.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 10:13 am
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Plenty of I class on LIN-LHR-JFK or LIN-LCY-JFK return in April and May at EUR1,300sh
Not sure this has been posted before...nice idea for a weekend in NY :-)
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