Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Feb 14, 2019, 1:28 pm
#766
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,075
A great find ^^^, thanks for posting.
Using your routing, searching for some random days in November, ITA matrix had a suggestion of an extra stop in PLZ in the "Flight 4", ie in all reading:
CPT-PLZ-JNB-WDH-JNB-GRU-JNB-VFA-JNB-DUR-PLZ-CPT = 640 TPs. This did not increase the price. Will check Comair's routes, there might be a possibility to add more segments?
Although this itinerary also is containing a TATL return, it still is a deja vue of the mega-run to PTY. Need to fill up with 5 segments more though
Now for the bad news. LA's 767 business cabin gets lousy reviews. Obviously lie-flat seats, but narrow and outmoded, and service does not impress. Will have to think more than twice...
Using your routing, searching for some random days in November, ITA matrix had a suggestion of an extra stop in PLZ in the "Flight 4", ie in all reading:
CPT-PLZ-JNB-WDH-JNB-GRU-JNB-VFA-JNB-DUR-PLZ-CPT = 640 TPs. This did not increase the price. Will check Comair's routes, there might be a possibility to add more segments?
Although this itinerary also is containing a TATL return, it still is a deja vue of the mega-run to PTY. Need to fill up with 5 segments more though
Now for the bad news. LA's 767 business cabin gets lousy reviews. Obviously lie-flat seats, but narrow and outmoded, and service does not impress. Will have to think more than twice...
The 767 isnt brilliant but it's a small sacrifice lol, you could literally go for 2 weeks and see 4 different countries for less than 1k , The flights on BA codes will earn better avios too. Panama yeah, I have one of them in June before they pulled unlimited transfers :-)
Feb 14, 2019, 3:30 pm
#767
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
i know what you mean.
any ideas on how to improve this little itinerary? stop in JNB for 3 days is intended, deadline is Oct 19, have to be in back in TXL in the evening of Sun 20. Thanks in advance. i tried VFA a lot. no success.. it always says "no flights found. Start a new search" :/
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Feb 14, 2019, 8:37 pm
#768
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 383
A great find ^^^, thanks for posting.
Using your routing, searching for some random days in November, ITA matrix had a suggestion of an extra stop in PLZ in the "Flight 4", ie in all reading:
CPT-PLZ-JNB-WDH-JNB-GRU-JNB-VFA-JNB-DUR-PLZ-CPT = 640 TPs. This did not increase the price. Will check Comair's routes, there might be a possibility to add more segments?
Although this itinerary also is containing a TATL return, it still is a deja vue of the mega-run to PTY. Need to fill up with 5 segments more though
Now for the bad news. LA's 767 business cabin gets lousy reviews. Obviously lie-flat seats, but narrow and outmoded, and service does not impress. Will have to think more than twice...
Using your routing, searching for some random days in November, ITA matrix had a suggestion of an extra stop in PLZ in the "Flight 4", ie in all reading:
CPT-PLZ-JNB-WDH-JNB-GRU-JNB-VFA-JNB-DUR-PLZ-CPT = 640 TPs. This did not increase the price. Will check Comair's routes, there might be a possibility to add more segments?
Although this itinerary also is containing a TATL return, it still is a deja vue of the mega-run to PTY. Need to fill up with 5 segments more though
Now for the bad news. LA's 767 business cabin gets lousy reviews. Obviously lie-flat seats, but narrow and outmoded, and service does not impress. Will have to think more than twice...
Feb 14, 2019, 10:56 pm
#769
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,075
Oh, that honor is only bestowed to the most frequent ITA users, holding the solid Rhodium card
Jokes aside, allow for extra stops. When you get the list of possible flights, there are 8 small white panels, the second from last being "STOPS". Scroll down and you might find a larger number of connecting stops, than your search specified.
This is not just for international travel with longer routings. A couple of years ago, I was planning a journey HEL-EDI, connecting in LHR. For a slightly higher price than the standard HEL-LHR-EDI-LHR-HEL routing, I also had suggestions like HEL-LHR-ABZ.KOI-EDI-LSI-ABZ-LHR-HEL Did check on BA's multi-city search and it was a valid routing, and price suggestion was right. Didn't have time for that then, but will do it in the future.
There is, of course the possible HEL-EDI r/t, but then again, this is FT
Life isn't that short, to justify only going with direct flights
Jokes aside, allow for extra stops. When you get the list of possible flights, there are 8 small white panels, the second from last being "STOPS". Scroll down and you might find a larger number of connecting stops, than your search specified.
This is not just for international travel with longer routings. A couple of years ago, I was planning a journey HEL-EDI, connecting in LHR. For a slightly higher price than the standard HEL-LHR-EDI-LHR-HEL routing, I also had suggestions like HEL-LHR-ABZ.KOI-EDI-LSI-ABZ-LHR-HEL Did check on BA's multi-city search and it was a valid routing, and price suggestion was right. Didn't have time for that then, but will do it in the future.
There is, of course the possible HEL-EDI r/t, but then again, this is FT
Life isn't that short, to justify only going with direct flights
Last edited by onobond; Feb 15, 2019 at 1:01 am Reason: typpo
Feb 15, 2019, 3:30 am
#770
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 26
Not as simple as some (e.g. AMS) The non-schengen transfer before passports wasn't open. So from leaving the plane I walked across the apron, into Non-Schengen arrivals through passports (one person ahead of me in the queue). Turned right and right again after passports, then though crew/connections where I had to clear security again and show my boarding pass. I still had time to grab a proper coffee at Costa (4am start!) before showing my passport at the non-schengen gate entrance, turns out there is a costa on the non-schengen side too!
It's very simple really, the quicker you get off the plane the more time you will have. I guess the queues will build up quite quickly at passports.
It's very simple really, the quicker you get off the plane the more time you will have. I guess the queues will build up quite quickly at passports.
Feb 15, 2019, 4:31 am
#771
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
Having more time to play with ITA Matrix tonight, I tried adding another segment, with DUR inserted in "Flight 1". That obviously meant exceeding MPM, possible to do, but at an almost Ł200 higher price. For that price, I could figure other excursions. Never mind, 11 segments will do
fantastic good to see others getting booked up
@Nephoi did you get the extra segment option?
Feb 15, 2019, 4:41 am
#772
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
To clarify was this on the AUH CGK or the LGW MLA as if it's the latter i would like to know how you pulled that off :-)
Feb 15, 2019, 5:51 am
#773
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold (woohoo)
Posts: 189
The CPT - GRU example above showed a fare class of ZEEEV00Q but Matrix and Expertflyer now only shows ZEXEV00Q. The change seems to be that unlimited stopovers seems to have been replaced with 1 free stopover and 2 extra at $100 each - am I reading that right? Did they pull the original deal? Still unlimited transfers I think.
Feb 15, 2019, 6:18 am
#774
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,072
The AUH-CGK fare is available again, a tiny bit pricier than the one before and valid until 12/3/19.
Dates for travel are available as far as November, for what I've seen.
Dates for travel are available as far as November, for what I've seen.
Last edited by Lefly; Feb 15, 2019 at 6:22 am Reason: Clarification
Feb 15, 2019, 6:57 am
#775
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 26
2 nested tickets as follows (avios gained almost equal to avios used to lower cash price) -
€189 (I used 6,500 avios to bring the price down from €245)
Ł186 (I used 6,500 avios to bring the price down from Ł236)
That works out at Ł1.09/tp
Last edited by stuarttheap; Feb 15, 2019 at 8:39 am Reason: additional information
Feb 15, 2019, 2:26 pm
#776
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,033
You ended up over Ł1.25 / TP roughly...
Feb 15, 2019, 11:07 pm
#777
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 383
Oh I see, it's in the results rather than the search
Feb 17, 2019, 5:50 am
#778
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: BA Gold, Delta Plat
Posts: 186
Just booked AUH - CGK over the first May bank holiday weekend. My first tier point run and should hit gold soon after always being blue! Also got positioning flights on BA WT+ for a good price, found them cheaper elsewhere and used the double price guarantee.
Feb 17, 2019, 8:17 am
#779
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Bristol
Programs: BA GGL, UA Plat, DL Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,380
What flights are you on ?