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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
The Hawaii fare also written up in tlfl https://www.turningleftforless.com/e...80tp-for-1500/

I don't know if it covers all Hawaii and not just HNL, but if it does I would really recommend KOA or OGG. Not a great fan of HNL myself.
Works to all 3 - enjoy people
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 3:40 pm
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Does anyone know what is the big deal about mid-June and flights to the US?

It's an off peak time, yet every year the sales exclude/the prices are higher for June before the 27th. It's annoying when I want to go to Vegas on the 20th, and missed out on the all date INV sale.
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 3:45 pm
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Managed to max OSL-HEL @1200TP for £1735
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by teledude
Managed to max OSL-HEL @1200TP for £1735
I’m not planning to do this, but (from a TP/route optimisation point of view) I’m curious how?

I know OSL-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAS-Hawaii and back is 1080, so what incantations are you muttering to conjure up another 120 @teledude? If you’re amenable to posting Matrix constructions/results, I’m always keen to learn more
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by squawk


I’m not planning to do this, but (from a TP/route optimisation point of view) I’m curious how?

I know OSL-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAS-Hawaii and back is 1080, so what incantations are you muttering to conjure up another 120 @teledude? If you’re amenable to posting Matrix constructions/results, I’m always keen to learn more
It involves a quick OJ, have edited it into the article linked above

OSL-HEL-AGP//MAD-JFK-LAX-HNL
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 4:48 pm
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Ahh! Thanks - that’s an intriguing option. For some reason I didn’t realise you were behind/involved in TLFL...

Edit: I’ll be honest, I’d be anxious about those OJs. Arrive at Malaga at 21:10 one night, depart from MAD 11:30 the next morning

The way back isn’t so bad - you arrive in the morning and have until 1am the following day - but still not exactly a relaxing itinerary

Are you mad? (Actually no, don’t answer that. Just tell me - did you book this 1200TP run...?)
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by squawk
Ahh! Thanks - that’s an intriguing option. For some reason I didn’t realise you were behind/involved in TLFL...

Edit: I’ll be honest, I’d be anxious about those OJs. Arrive at Malaga at 21:10 one night, depart from MAD 11:30 the next morning

The way back isn’t so bad - you arrive in the morning and have until 1am the following day - but still not exactly a relaxing itinerary

Are you mad? (Actually no, don’t answer that. Just tell me - did you book this 1200TP run...?)
Not yet - that's just an example and can be changed though
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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Originally Posted by ritesa
CGN-LGW-JER return in CE is available for 226 GBP until the end of March - 160 TP, £1,42/TP.
About to book a few of these and combine with the Amex Travel offer. I had a quick look and cannot find any fares with better £/TP ratio. just wondered if anyone else had found anything better before I book!

Thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 2:06 am
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun
About to book a few of these and combine with the Amex Travel offer. I had a quick look and cannot find any fares with better £/TP ratio. just wondered if anyone else had found anything better before I book!

Thanks
I think that ARN-HEL-LHR-PHL-CLT-MIA or something similar might be better value - depending on how much TP you need. This may not seem better in terms of £/TP but once you factor Avios, and if you're gold, you'd be getting 680TP for ~£850
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 2:11 am
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Originally Posted by PxC
Does anyone know what is the big deal about mid-June and flights to the US?

It's an off peak time, yet every year the sales exclude/the prices are higher for June before the 27th. It's annoying when I want to go to Vegas on the 20th, and missed out on the all date INV sale.
It's not off-peak for business travellers though. Most premium cabin deals are during the holiday periods, which are the peak periods for Economy class passengers - and a lull in premium class demand.

The INV-LAS fare was unusual in that it wasn't restricted, although I didn't actually notice that - I was in such a rush to get it booked before the fare was pulled, I didn't spot that I could have booked it in September
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun
About to book a few of these and combine with the Amex Travel offer. I had a quick look and cannot find any fares with better £/TP ratio. just wondered if anyone else had found anything better before I book!

Thanks
One thing to keep in mind, I always find booking through AMEX travel tends to come at a higher cost for booking the same flights/fare codes on BA or AA websites. YMMV!
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by flashware
One thing to keep in mind, I always find booking through AMEX travel tends to come at a higher cost for booking the same flights/fare codes on BA or AA websites. YMMV!
yes and the same for hotels. Have £1200 booking with a hotel that Amex we’re charging £1700 for!
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by binman


yes and the same for hotels. Have £1200 booking with a hotel that Amex we’re charging £1700 for!
It played to my advantage with the AMEX travel promo late last year, booking on MH was £500 but booking via AMEX was £604 then £200 cashback so worked out well, as £600 was the trigger limit.
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by flashware
It played to my advantage with the AMEX travel promo late last year, booking on MH was £500 but booking via AMEX was £604 then £200 cashback so worked out well, as £600 was the trigger limit.
On that note, triggered the £200 cash back across three separate transactions with AmEx travel (2 cars and a flight). Cars I was doing anyway and they were the same price on AmEx as Avis; took the more expensive AmEx flight as the cash back more than made up for it.

The online chat agent confirmed that it does not need to be one transaction to trigger it.
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 4:24 am
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Is the IB fare OSL-HNL bookable online?
I was researching for a friend the "basic" version OSL-HEL-LAX-HNL and back for 1600 eur, but so far no joy using either IB website or Ita-Matrix powertools...
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