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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Gastrocnemius
Presumably by driving you from LHR to LGW??
if they were offering to chauffeur me between airports I would take those LHR/LGW much more often
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 8:26 am
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1. A reason as good as any, IMO
2. The question is free, of course. If its an AA ticket (001-) chances are better than if BA (125-). But the sun might shine on you, so call and find out. If not the answer you would like? HUCA (Hang Up and Call Again). Another agent might see it your way. Good luck!
AA cancelled their JFK-MCO flights in the summer (odd!), and I got them to route me MIA-CLT-JFK so adding a segment.
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Gastrocnemius
Presumably by driving you from LHR to LGW??
Yes, please! I just loathe that bus. Can I have one of the Jags?
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Ned1968
Good TP run from Inverness to Vegas in August for Ł1,285 in business - number of dates available - can do INV-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-INV for 720 TPs

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Thanks for posting. Can anyone help with some questions please?

1. If I want to UuA the TATL's is it correct that they must be BA coded and BA operated?
2. It seems to be more challenging to get the TATL's BA coded and BA operated compared to AA coded as the LAX-LAS / LAS-LAX often drops to Y. Is it normally the case that I availability is worse if BA coded?
3. If it is all AA codes as in the screenshot do you have to book this with AA?

Appreciate any help.
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by wheatbeer
Thanks for posting. Can anyone help with some questions please?

1. If I want to UuA the TATL's is it correct that they must be BA coded and BA operated?
2. It seems to be more challenging to get the TATL's BA coded and BA operated compared to AA coded as the LAX-LAS / LAS-LAX often drops to Y. Is it normally the case that I availability is worse if BA coded?
3. If it is all AA codes as in the screenshot do you have to book this with AA?

Appreciate any help.
1. Must be BA booked and on BA/AA/IB flight. So not necessarily BA operated or coded. Just had this discussion with a Gold phone agent the other day when I tried to upgrade my AA booked BA operated and coded flight to First but was unsuccessful .The agent did say that he put a note into my account for that flight and an upgrade might be possible closer to the date but it would either be cash upgrade or possibly upgrade free of charge.

3. No you don't have to book with AA. You can book via an agent should you wish. It does mean though that they will all be AA code flights.
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by pma.tang
1. Must be BA booked and on BA/AA/IB flight. So not necessarily BA operated or coded. Just had this discussion with a Gold phone agent the other day when I tried to upgrade my AA booked BA operated and coded flight to First but was unsuccessful .The agent did say that he put a note into my account for that flight and an upgrade might be possible closer to the date but it would either be cash upgrade or possibly upgrade free of charge.

3. No you don't have to book with AA. You can book via an agent should you wish. It does mean though that they will all be AA code flights.
Thanks for your help. To book with BA can they all be AA coded or is there any requirements that some must be BA codes? So if I book with BA but LHR-JFK is AA coded but BA operated, it is possible to upgrade with Avios?
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Thanks for your help. To book with BA can they all be AA coded or is there any requirements that some must be BA codes? So if I book with BA but LHR-JFK is AA coded but BA operated, it is possible to upgrade with Avios?
As long as you book via BA and are on a BA IB or AA flight, you cann upgrade using Avios if there is availability.
I'm not actually certain if it would be possible to book via BA on a BA flight with an AA code though... it would be highly unusual if you could as that is not the purpose of codesharing

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Old Apr 7, 2019, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by wheatbeer
Thanks for your help. To book with BA can they all be AA coded or is there any requirements that some must be BA codes? So if I book with BA but LHR-JFK is AA coded but BA operated, it is possible to upgrade with Avios?
Must be BA operated and marketed. So....

BA ticket.
BA metal.
BA flight code.

You can have AA codes and flights for other sectors
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Ned1968
Good TP run from Inverness to Vegas in August for Ł1,285 in business - number of dates available - can do INV-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-INV for 720 TPs
Thanks for this, about o do my first TP run (ARN-HNL) in a few weeks and already looking for another - this might be it!
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Old Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by wheatbeer
Thanks for your help. To book with BA can they all be AA coded or is there any requirements that some must be BA codes? So if I book with BA but LHR-JFK is AA coded but BA operated, it is possible to upgrade with Avios?
Hi wheatbeer. As well as the helpful answers given by others have a look at the first few posts of this thread as they may give you some more information, There is a section specifically for UuAs for example.
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From today's Telegraph..
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Old Apr 8, 2019, 5:32 am
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From today's Telegraph..
A heretical post for this thread sunshinebob
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Old Apr 8, 2019, 6:13 am
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A heretical post for this thread sunshinebob
Actually, we FTers sound like the last guy, and the complainer reminds me of a lot a friends and family when I suggest TP runs or convoluted routings to get somewhere...
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From today's Telegraph..
nice one but they should seat in sauna
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Actually, we FTers sound like the last guy, .
I tend to agree with Clive.
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