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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 23, 19, 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by londonLHR View Post
Out of interest, who does the ORC: the original booking airline, the airline making the flight change, or the airline youíre crediting miles to (assuming they could be different)
I think the way it works is that after you have taken the flights, you put your ORC claim in to BAEC. They will then contact the marketing airline concerned and verify what flights were taken and should have been taken, and if the marketing airline approves it BAEC will remove the rerouted flight credits and manually credit the original flights. It goes without saying that you should think whether an ORC is better than what you get credited for the rerouting - sometimes I have got more TPs and avios due to the reroute so I was better off not doing the ORC.
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Old Jan 23, 19, 4:36 am
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AUH to CGK B2B

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I have 2 booked in March but I have a night in AUH as I didnt want to chance it, UL have a habit of wanting to see Credit Cards before BP issue as well as other quirks, AUH has a Airside Transfer / Transit but I think there is another security check according to the website.
So would you say then that the 1 hour turn around in Abu Dhabi is not possible?

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hi everyone,

just a quick question. I have an itinerary that i thought would get 800 tier points, its not especially cheap at 2000GBP, but i need to go to LAS.

It revolves around legs BOS-LAX (AA338) and LAS-MIA (AA2349) I thought both get credited as long haul First class, google flights is showing them as First (and i assumed 210 each leg) but BA agent saying it would be in I-class and the total tier points more like 600.

I'm not sure if this is because the agent could be ticketing the fare differently to Google Flights, or if Google Flights is wrong, or possibly the agent calculated the total wrong.

Any insights? thanks for help in advance and sorry i didnt have enough post history to provide a link to the full itinary on google flights.
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Old Jan 23, 19, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by givemeaclue View Post
hi everyone,

just a quick question. I have an itinerary that i thought would get 800 tier points, its not especially cheap at 2000GBP, but i need to go to LAS.

It revolves around legs BOS-LAX (AA338) and LAS-MIA (AA2349) I thought both get credited as long haul First class, google flights is showing them as First (and i assumed 210 each leg) but BA agent saying it would be in I-class and the total tier points more like 600.

I'm not sure if this is because the agent could be ticketing the fare differently to Google Flights, or if Google Flights is wrong, or possibly the agent calculated the total wrong.

Any insights? thanks for help in advance and sorry i didnt have enough post history to provide a link to the full itinary on google flights.
Welcome to FT and the BA forum givemeaclue. The agent was indeed right. Those flights (even though in AA F) will earn business TPs (i.e. 140 TP for each flight). The only flights where you get 210 TP are your transcon JFK - LAX / SFO, LAX - BOS but that is flying in proper transcon F, not pretend F....!
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As I noted earlier AA are good in that if you have an AA reference you can call them direct to deal with schedule changes. As such I can live with OTA bookings. BA are terrible, recently I had the first 2 flights just drop off my itinerary, GGL line referred me straight back to the TA (Propeller) who were able to resolve. They have the benefit of being small scale, I would think the process would be much more painful with a major OTA.

I am intrigued as to whether anyone has successfully booked an IB fare through BA, that would be something I would definitely consider.

One final note of caution, I have spent many hours finessing an itinerary (AA not IB) in Matrix before only to find none of the above lead to a booking. Seems to be a function of married segment availability. I always think itís worth testing the water first by dummy booking simple output from matrix before spending too much time getting best planes, desired stopovers, right codeshare flight numbers etc.
By AA reference, are you meaning just an AA [Sabre] record locator? Does it make a difference if it is not an AA fare?

Originally Posted by londonLHR View Post

ditto. Spend hours doing this recently for the IB fares, and then also time on phone to AA to try and get that and previous fares.

I actually found propeller very good: their price including fee was lower than the ITA Matrix quite - I havenít tested them out in an interruption, but their response time on the phone was very good
To both[/all]:
I assume the airlines can ticket each other's fares [since they can be mixed] - but will they ticket if you are not using their own fares at all...? In this instance, these are only IB fares - so I have had zero luck with AA.com [it seems to throw it onto the AA fares which are ~£500 more]. Priceline seems to work for some, and the Powertools links to BA and IB are [not without precedent] useless.

I've also spent a decent amount of time on the Hawai'i fares - and have just had to check if it lands of Priceline after finding a decent itinerary. If anyone has a better way of discerning what does/doesn't acutally exist it would be most valuable!
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Originally Posted by etiene View Post
By AA reference, are you meaning just an AA [Sabre] record locator? Does it make a difference if it is not an AA fare?
Yes i mean the AA record locator. In my particular case the schedule changes impacted a mixed itinerary (some flights with BA numbers and BA operated) but adjustments were only required to the AA operated and ticketed flights so i found dealing with AA straightforward. If the situation was reversed eg on the return segment and BA operated flights were impacted i cannot say for certain the rescheduling would be as seamless.

Originally Posted by etiene;30689855th
I assume the airlines can ticket each other's fares [since they can be mixed] - but will they ticket if you are not using their own fares at all...? In this instance, these are only IB fares - so I have had zero luck with AA.com [it seems to throw it onto the AA fares which are ~£500 more]. Priceline seems to work for some, and the Powertools links to BA and IB are [not without precedent] useless.

I've also spent a decent amount of time on the Hawai'i fares - and have just had to check if it lands of Priceline after finding a decent itinerary. If anyone has a better way of discerning what does/doesn't acutally exist it would be most valuable!
I dont know but certainly would like to know if anyone has experience with this. All i can say for the IB fares is that with the exception of Propeller every other method i tried failed, The closest i got was the fare showing as bookable on CheapoAir but falling over at the booking stage. As GGL would be great if bookable through ba but i just couldnít picture it working.
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Originally Posted by Fossiebear View Post
Yes i mean the AA record locator. In my particular case the schedule changes impacted a mixed itinerary (some flights with BA numbers and BA operated) but adjustments were only required to the AA operated and ticketed flights so i found dealing with AA straightforward. If the situation was reversed eg on the return segment and BA operated flights were impacted i cannot say for certain the rescheduling would be as seamless.


Good to know at least that much - even though [to my disappointment] I don't think I'll be able to commit to these Hawai'i fares.

Originally Posted by Fossiebear View Post
I dont know but certainly would like to know if anyone has experience with this. All i can say for the IB fares is that with the exception of Propeller every other method i tried failed, The closest i got was the fare showing as bookable on CheapoAir but falling over at the booking stage. As GGL would be great if bookable through ba but i just couldnít picture it working.
Definitely second that - my assumption would be that you'd need the ticket stock to match at least one of the fares, but if one of the more knowledgable heads could weigh in it would be most appreciated!
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Definitely second that - my assumption would be that you'd need the ticket stock to match at least one of the fares, but if one of the more knowledgable heads could weigh in it would be most appreciated!
On the JBA routes across the Atlantic you don't and I have booked AA exEU fares with BA before, partly because I find BA easier to deal with for the inevitable AA changes which always happen. However, BA is reluctant to do this even though it really doesn't matter since the revenue is shared between BA/AA/IB/AY anyway.

In terms of TA bookings the default is you are suppose to deal with the TA for any changes, and depending on the TA that may not be a stress free experience! Most airlines will not help you and that certainly the case with BA. I don't know whether AA helping people on AA tickets (and I assume they would have to be AA tickets for AA to help) is a case of their explicit policy to do that or a few agents doing their own thing.
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Thx Fossiebear, Karfa et al...
I have just had the ticket issued via Propeller at less cost (including their fee) than the ITA Matrix fare..
only difference is leaving HNL a day later, no probs.
Ive put the booking codes into AA , Finnair and IB apps and all’s good inc seat selection. Result

Note to self - don’t call IB




Originally Posted by Fossiebear View Post
Personally where these type of complex matrix trips are concerned my approach has always been (in order of preference)
1. Book with matrix to aa.com or for BA fares call them direct
2. Powertools to OTA eg Priceline
3. Propeller Travel

As I noted earlier AA are good in that if you have an AA reference you can call them direct to deal with schedule changes. As such I can live with OTA bookings. BA are terrible, recently I had the first 2 flights just drop off my itinerary, GGL line referred me straight back to the TA (Propeller) who were able to resolve. They have the benefit of being small scale, I would think the process would be much more painful with a major OTA.

As for Iberia just plugging in a simple return from origin to destination was throwing out a hugely increased cost vs ITA, so I am not surprised people have had no joy calling them.

I am intrigued as to whether anyone has successfully booked an IB fare through BA, that would be something I would definitely consider.

One final note of caution, I have spent many hours finessing an itinerary (AA not IB) in Matrix before only to find none of the above lead to a booking. Seems to be a function of married segment availability. I always think it’s worth testing the water first by dummy booking simple output from matrix before spending too much time getting best planes, desired stopovers, right codeshare flight numbers etc.

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Having booked the HEL - OTP - HEL mini trip for March suggested up thread, I'm looking for something meatier for over the Easter period. But now I'm thinking I've left it too late to jump on any established runs. Doh!
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Hi there, Can I ask what your routing is? How much did you pay? and how many tier points will you get?

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Old Jan 23, 19, 2:40 pm
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LHR-HEL-LHR £342 (including a cheap hotel within walking distance) - 160 TP
HEL-LHR-OTP-LHR-HEL £607 (including a cheap hotel - again in walking distance) - 320 TP - bought via AMEX using £200 off £600 code that I had picked up on my Plat card - so £407.
1/2 day Friday to leave London, and arrive back Monday to work the afternoon.

I recognise these aren't a great price - but its convenient for me.
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Old Jan 23, 19, 3:22 pm
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LHR-HEL-LHR can be had for a few weekends in February in CE for £296, which is a respectable £1.85/TP with early or late Friday / Saturday flights out and early or late Sunday returns.
If somebody felt like staying in the airport, a Saturday night arrival into HEL at 11.20pm and Sunday departure at 7.45am is doable.

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Have a work trip to SEA and need to be in SEA 20th May-24th May, normal base is LHR. (have christening on 26th May so have to fly back on 24th - initial day can be flexible by 2 -days i.e to Sat). Work policy is economy but can fly better class if cost is close/can top up. Happy to travel Ex EU to get the business class fares down - any advice / routes would be much appreciated!

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Old Jan 24, 19, 12:11 am
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So would you say then that the 1 hour turn around in Abu Dhabi is not possible?
I would advise against this, if the inbound CMB flight is delayed (which it often is) you'll miss your check in deadline of 60 mins, and be denied boarding. UL almost, always likely, do a credit card verification, and therefore, online/mobile check in usually fails.

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