Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Nov 14, 2020, 4:37 am
#6061
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 16
Bit of wisdom/ pointers to options requested please:
I’ve got a SOF-LHR-DFW-KOA-DFW-LHR-SOF booked through AA for early Feb that is looking increasingly unlikely with all of the testing requirements (got an overnight in Dallas that makes pre-departure testing in LHR before the positioning flight too far out for Hawaii to accept on arrival)
Does anyone know where there’s a good summary of what refund/rebooking options with AA are as their info is more slanted to vouchers?
They’ve moved the trans Atlantic leg by more than 3 hours already so I think I could use that to trigger a refund as I booked on 7th April (foolishly thinking a year out would be safe...)
Any suggestions as to best course of action or options to try and salvage something good?
Having been burnt by rebooking/refund problems on other flights (I’m looking at you BA) I’m inclined towards simple refund and rebook later.
Any thoughts or help gratefully received
I’ve got a SOF-LHR-DFW-KOA-DFW-LHR-SOF booked through AA for early Feb that is looking increasingly unlikely with all of the testing requirements (got an overnight in Dallas that makes pre-departure testing in LHR before the positioning flight too far out for Hawaii to accept on arrival)
Does anyone know where there’s a good summary of what refund/rebooking options with AA are as their info is more slanted to vouchers?
They’ve moved the trans Atlantic leg by more than 3 hours already so I think I could use that to trigger a refund as I booked on 7th April (foolishly thinking a year out would be safe...)
Any suggestions as to best course of action or options to try and salvage something good?
Having been burnt by rebooking/refund problems on other flights (I’m looking at you BA) I’m inclined towards simple refund and rebook later.
Any thoughts or help gratefully received
Nov 14, 2020, 7:47 am
#6062
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
Bit of wisdom/ pointers to options requested please:
I’ve got a SOF-LHR-DFW-KOA-DFW-LHR-SOF booked through AA for early Feb that is looking increasingly unlikely with all of the testing requirements (got an overnight in Dallas that makes pre-departure testing in LHR before the positioning flight too far out for Hawaii to accept on arrival)
Does anyone know where there’s a good summary of what refund/rebooking options with AA are as their info is more slanted to vouchers?
They’ve moved the trans Atlantic leg by more than 3 hours already so I think I could use that to trigger a refund as I booked on 7th April (foolishly thinking a year out would be safe...)
Any suggestions as to best course of action or options to try and salvage something good?
Having been burnt by rebooking/refund problems on other flights (I’m looking at you BA) I’m inclined towards simple refund and rebook later.
Any thoughts or help gratefully received
I’ve got a SOF-LHR-DFW-KOA-DFW-LHR-SOF booked through AA for early Feb that is looking increasingly unlikely with all of the testing requirements (got an overnight in Dallas that makes pre-departure testing in LHR before the positioning flight too far out for Hawaii to accept on arrival)
Does anyone know where there’s a good summary of what refund/rebooking options with AA are as their info is more slanted to vouchers?
They’ve moved the trans Atlantic leg by more than 3 hours already so I think I could use that to trigger a refund as I booked on 7th April (foolishly thinking a year out would be safe...)
Any suggestions as to best course of action or options to try and salvage something good?
Having been burnt by rebooking/refund problems on other flights (I’m looking at you BA) I’m inclined towards simple refund and rebook later.
Any thoughts or help gratefully received
otherwise: wait till first sunday of January (or first Sunday of December if travel is in the very very early Feb) till the AA schedule will be updated. with THAT itiniary very likely the will be disruption. if so, call, double check, prefunds.aa.com, wait a week. get your money.
Nov 14, 2020, 7:51 am
#6063
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
I agree with Nephoi ,
American updates their domestic schedule monthly on the first Sunday of the previous month or the last Sunday 2 months before.
I am pretty sure that there would be updates and at least one your flights would be cancelled by 3 January 2021.
American updates their domestic schedule monthly on the first Sunday of the previous month or the last Sunday 2 months before.
I am pretty sure that there would be updates and at least one your flights would be cancelled by 3 January 2021.
Nov 25, 2020, 6:06 am
#6064
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,991
Well, this is annoying...
I received a notification of a schedule change and rebooking from AA. My GOT-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL itinerary for next year has been rebooked as GOT-LHR-LAX-HNL, with longer layovers in LHR and LAX and a loss of 140 TPs. AA has advised me that this does not allow me to cancel for a refund because they are still getting me to HNL at the same time.
I guess I'll have to hope that BA cancels its Gothenburg flights to get the refund I'm looking for.
I received a notification of a schedule change and rebooking from AA. My GOT-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL itinerary for next year has been rebooked as GOT-LHR-LAX-HNL, with longer layovers in LHR and LAX and a loss of 140 TPs. AA has advised me that this does not allow me to cancel for a refund because they are still getting me to HNL at the same time.
I guess I'll have to hope that BA cancels its Gothenburg flights to get the refund I'm looking for.
Nov 25, 2020, 6:15 am
#6065
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,963
Any flight cancellation allows you to cancel and do a full refund, regardless of the timing of the flights you are rebooked on to. This is a clear requirement under EC261 which your cancelled LHR-JFK would be covered by.
Nov 25, 2020, 6:28 am
#6066
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,991
I was pretty certain of that too, and I specifically told the agent that, but after a long period on hold while he consulted with his "support desk" he insisted that AA policy does not allow me to cancel for a refund.
Looks like I need to call again.
Nov 25, 2020, 6:31 am
#6067
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Hopefully it gets resolved!
Nov 25, 2020, 8:19 am
#6068
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,991
When she came back she said that I was, after all, entitled to a refund, although not because a flight was cancelled but because my arrival in LAX (en route) was 5 hours earlier than originally booked. She cancelled the itinerary, put a note on the booking and asked me to apply for the refund online.
I still think the reasoning is incorrect, and am a bit disappointed because I have always found AA agents to be extremely knowledgeable and helpful in the past, but seem to have got what I wanted in the end.
Nov 25, 2020, 8:27 am
#6069
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,963
the reasoning is incorrect as you noted. any cancellation of a flight allows for cancelling of a booking for a full refund. as you say, you got a refund now at least.
Nov 25, 2020, 8:44 am
#6070
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BER
Programs: BAEC GGL/GfL, Lufthansa SEN, Hilton Diamond, misc other stuff
Posts: 1,374
If you are happy with the ticket price you have (and can afford to give AA a free loan) then I'd just wait until shortly before departure.
Chances are high there are additional changes/cancellations which give clear reasons to get a refund or rebooked.
I've rebooked/canceled half a dozen AA TATL tickets and it was a very smooth process. So much that even as GGL I prefer to deal with the AA Twitter team and booked some tickets on AA vs BA stock.
Chances are high there are additional changes/cancellations which give clear reasons to get a refund or rebooked.
I've rebooked/canceled half a dozen AA TATL tickets and it was a very smooth process. So much that even as GGL I prefer to deal with the AA Twitter team and booked some tickets on AA vs BA stock.
Nov 25, 2020, 10:33 am
#6071
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver (temp demotion), *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 492
Well, this is annoying...
I received a notification of a schedule change and rebooking from AA. My GOT-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL itinerary for next year has been rebooked as GOT-LHR-LAX-HNL, with longer layovers in LHR and LAX and a loss of 140 TPs. AA has advised me that this does not allow me to cancel for a refund because they are still getting me to HNL at the same time.
I guess I'll have to hope that BA cancels its Gothenburg flights to get the refund I'm looking for.
I received a notification of a schedule change and rebooking from AA. My GOT-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL itinerary for next year has been rebooked as GOT-LHR-LAX-HNL, with longer layovers in LHR and LAX and a loss of 140 TPs. AA has advised me that this does not allow me to cancel for a refund because they are still getting me to HNL at the same time.
I guess I'll have to hope that BA cancels its Gothenburg flights to get the refund I'm looking for.
Last edited by SavvyTravel; Nov 25, 2020 at 11:01 am Reason: later update
Nov 25, 2020, 9:38 pm
#6072
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
AA agents could be a hit or miss these days.
On some occasions, I needed to HUACA multiple times to get what I want.
Several travel websites have indicated that the USA has an intention to remove the Presidential Proclamation for Europe and Brazil in the upcoming days so this would mean that you might actually end up going to Hawaii with no restriction ( but a negative COVID test according to HA state rules ).
On some occasions, I needed to HUACA multiple times to get what I want.
We may also destined for some AA calls .... as our current Feb return OGG- [140TP hops]-GOT has the JFK-LHR leg landing after the LHR-GOT final leg departs. That's a clear refund so I'm fine (still holding the tickets in the hope of the vaccine). But in the event of a cancel the BA positioning flights might have to be an FTV.
I hope you get sorted Glad you are sorted in a sensible way.
Nov 26, 2020, 7:48 pm
#6073
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Multiple locations
Programs: AAdvantage ExPlat LT Gold, BA Silver, Aegean Star Gold
Posts: 5,038
AA DCA-ATL for USD 346 or GBP 259 - 240 TPs no overnights
Nov 27, 2020, 7:31 am
#6074
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: DFW or GOT or...
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott GFL
Posts: 819
Nov 27, 2020, 7:35 am
#6075
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
DCA-RDU is still available for much less ( 240 TPs )
