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tenn_ace Jan 4, 2019 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by navylad (Post 30611190)


more. Weekend to DIUB or AMS for £197 (various dates)

or the same price to MAN with return on the same day

wilsnunn Jan 4, 2019 6:29 pm

I have a proposed convoluted route to get me to Kuala Lumpur for a conference in the middle of August this year and I was wondering if the collective wisdom here on FT could give me any suggestions or changes/improvements or things that I may have missed:

A) 13/08 - LHR-KBP BA882. Dep: 08:20, Arr: 13:35. Economy: 10TPs
--- 10 hr layover ---
B) 13/08 - KBP-DOH QR298. Dep 23:40, Arr 05:05(+1). Business: 140TPs
--- 21 hr layover - take advantage of Qatar Plus offer of a hotel to visit friends in Doha ---
C) 15/08 - DOH-CAN QR874. Dep 02:05, Arr: 15:30. Business: 140TPs
--- 23 hr layover - spend the night in Guangzhou on 24 hour free transit visa ---
D) 16/08 - CAN-KUL MH377. Dep 14:35, Arr 18:40. Economy: 5TPs
--- 1 week of conference and 1 week of visiting family in SIN & KCH (fly using Avios?) ---
E) 02/09 - SIN-KUL-CAN MH602 MH376. Dep 06:40, layover 1hr 20min, Arr 13:15. Economy: 5+5=10TPs
--- 12 hr layover (not sure what to do with this!) ---
F) 03/09 - CAN-DOH-KBP QR875 QR295. Dep 01:35, layover 1hr 40min, Arr 12:20. Business: 140+140=280TPs
--- 1hr 45min layover ---
G) 03/09 - KPB-LHR BA883. Dep 14:25 Arr 16:05. Economy 10TPs

This consists of three tickets:

Ticket 1: Flights A & G - £170 (economy plus)
Ticket 2: Flights B, C & F - £1230 (to be booked by company TA -- hope can still do Qatar Plus deal with that, from reading on the Qatar forum, it seems that I can)
Ticket 3: Flights D & E - £228 (found on ITA, forcing not to price in Q bucket (=0TPs))

Total cost: £1628, Total TPs: 595, £/TP: 2.74.
[Although with Ticket 2 booked by my company, in theory, I am getting a £/TP of 0.67 on my own money.]

This is going to be the first proper TP optimised routing that I have ever done, and I am looking to get the most out of it, and hope that I can!

Thanks in advance for any comments!

Will100 Jan 4, 2019 9:25 pm

Has anyone had any success booking an elaborate routing through BA holidays?

Id like to go for the Miami ex-Stockholm discussed a day or two back adding a weeks car hire on.

Obviously when booking for 4 it’s a significant chunk of cash that I can hold onto until a couple of months before departure.

Blueboys999 Jan 4, 2019 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by Definilogy (Post 30610403)
Hi all,

been trying to ask for a couple of times now but doesnt seem to be able to get a fruitful answer...

any stop over locations that I should looking at to maximise the TP for a Manchester to HKG trip?

thanks In advance.

As a MAN based flyer myself I have found that maximising TP's Eastbound usually means flying on MAN-DOH-XXX on QR. Not only convenient but a great experience with multiple ex MAN departures. There is a suggestion that a QR sale is about to happen on or around 17 January (far from certain) so it might be worth holding off if you can to see if something comes along.

EvilDoctorK Jan 4, 2019 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by wilsnunn (Post 30611613)
F) 03/09 - CAN-DOH-KBP QR875 QR295. Dep 01:35, layover 1hr 40min, Arr 12:20. Business: 140+140=280TPs
--- 1hr 45min layover ---
G) 03/09 - KPB-LHR BA883. Dep 14:25 Arr 16:05. Economy 10TPs

Apart from the general craziness of the route to KUL - but I guess (hope) you're not in a hurry - the last connection seems dodgy ... I guess you'll have luggage for the length of the journey and while Kiev is a fairly efficient airport a 1h45 ( or even 2h5 per the actual times you've written ) isn't really going to be comfortable to arrive ( immigration can be a bit slow ) do the baggage drop ( 60 min cut off?, I've only ever done Hand Baggage from Kiev ) .. even a short delay from Doha and you're stuck .. consider either booking the Air Ukraine ( they're okay ) to Gatwick in the evening instead or doing an open jaw on the Qatar Airways ticket coming back to somewhere with better connection options on the return.

wilsnunn Jan 5, 2019 12:45 am


Originally Posted by EvilDoctorK (Post 30612181)
Apart from the general craziness of the route to KUL - but I guess (hope) you're not in a hurry - the last connection seems dodgy ... I guess you'll have luggage for the length of the journey and while Kiev is a fairly efficient airport a 1h45 ( or even 2h5 per the actual times you've written ) isn't really going to be comfortable to arrive ( immigration can be a bit slow ) do the baggage drop ( 60 min cut off?, I've only ever done Hand Baggage from Kiev ) .. even a short delay from Doha and you're stuck .. consider either booking the Air Ukraine ( they're okay ) to Gatwick in the evening instead or doing an open jaw on the Qatar Airways ticket coming back to somewhere with better connection options on the return.

Thank you for that, I underestimated that connection on purpose as I realised it was rather tight and wasn't sure of the best thing to do here. I had completely ignored the option of an open jaw (not sure why) but I have just realised that I can actually fly back on the following instead:

E) 02/09 - SIN-DOH-ARN QR947 QR169. Dep 21:20, layover 1hr 55min, Arr 07:15. Business: 140+140=280TPs
--- 6hr layover (option for earlier flight at 11:25am too) ---
F) 03/09 - ARN-LHR BA775. Dep 13:20 Arr 13:10. Economy 5TPs

This brings the totals to:

Ticket 1: Flights A & F - £150 (multi-city ticket)
Ticket 2: Flights B, C & E - £1315 (to be booked by company TA -- hope can still do Qatar Plus deal with that, from reading on the Qatar forum, it seems that I can)
Ticket 3: Flight D - £150 (found on ITA, forcing not to price in Q bucket (=0TPs))

Total cost: £1615, Total TPs: 580, £/TP: 2.78.
[Although £1250 of Ticket 2 booked by my company, in theory, I am getting a £/TP of 0.63 on my own money.]

This new routing also gives me the QSuites on SIN-DOH, which was one thing that I had hoped to get from this trip.

This is my last major trip as a PhD Student before I graduate and become an employee and am much more limited in my holiday allowances, so I am happy to spread the trip out and make it as crazy as possible!

Non Compos Mentis Jan 5, 2019 12:52 am


Originally Posted by wilsnunn (Post 30611613)
B) 13/08 - KBP-DOH QR298. Dep 23:40, Arr 05:05(+1). Business: 140TPs
--- 21 hr layover - take advantage of Qatar Plus offer of a hotel to visit friends in Doha ---

Ticket 2: Flights B, C & F - £1230 (to be booked by company TA -- hope can still do Qatar Plus deal with that, from reading on the Qatar forum, it seems that I can)
!

For now Qatar Plus only extended until 30th April 2019.

wilsnunn Jan 5, 2019 1:00 am


Originally Posted by bchang (Post 30612518)


For now Qatar Plus only extended until 30th April 2019.

For the past few years it seems to have been extended, and if it isn't, I have friends with whom I can stop to have a rest with anyway. It is also not a "proper" overnight stop, arriving early morning I could rest in the (arrivals) lounge for a bit and freshen up before heading into Doha and then as the outbound is at 2:05, could get back to HIA not too late and relax in the departure lounge (is this possible?).

lorcancoyle Jan 5, 2019 2:31 am


Originally Posted by Blueboys999 (Post 30612158)
As a MAN based flyer myself I have found that maximising TP's Eastbound usually means flying on MAN-DOH-XXX on QR. Not only convenient but a great experience with multiple ex MAN departures. There is a suggestion that a QR sale is about to happen on or around 17 January (far from certain) so it might be worth holding off if you can to see if something comes along.

fingers crossed - I have no revenue long hauls eastbound booked for the year, but will be in Japan later in the year. QR to Asia, even if it means an extra hop on CX or JAL to Japan, is my ideal.

annihilation Jan 5, 2019 4:17 am


Originally Posted by mmfraser (Post 30610153)
No matter what dates I try (even these exact dates), the BA website only offers the LAX-JFK leg in economy. Is this fare still available, if so, what is the trick?

Many thanks!

I had the same issue, it kept putting the return leg of LAX-JFK into economy. So I am not overly concerned with being on the transcon on the way back so I routed via Boston. Get to fly back on the 787 too which is a nice compromise.

flyer_tom Jan 5, 2019 4:23 am

Huge thanks to KARFA for setting up the thread! Looking forward to seeing what TP runs people get up to and become available this year.


Originally Posted by cgtechuk (Post 30609348)
AUH - CMB - CGK - £510 for 560Tps if you use an OTA via SkyScanner you can get it down to as low as £479

Cheapest and best value positioning I found was INV - LHR - AUH - LHR - GLA in W for £501 price promised down to £460

I ended up doing two of them in total so

INV - LHR - AUH - CMB - CGK - CMB - AUH - CMB - CGK - CMB - AUH - LHR - GLA for £1396 for 1320Tps for £1.06 / TP

That's a lovely little TP run! I think I'm going to try and do something similar - although probably with only 1 AUH - CMB - CGK run. However at the moment the positioning flights are coming up in the several thousands for me!

How did you manage to get the position flight in W so cheap? I'm only looking on GF rather than through ITA - would that potentially have something to do with it? (Assume the 2 runs AUH - CGK are 2 separate nested tickets? Easy to B2B there)?

annihilation Jan 5, 2019 4:33 am


Originally Posted by MarkedMan (Post 30610325)
Try picking the Economy option on the selection page and see how it prices. It returns a business cabin. It's yet another quirk of the optimally design BA multi city selector functionality.

EDIT: keep in mind anyway that this right now might be an early glimpse into the fare, it can only be booked on BA, online, with BA coded flights. Might be worth waiting a few days and seeing if this comes up with AA too, or with TAs, where we'd get a lot more flexibility.


Damnit! You are right, it does push it into Business!! Never mind.

madfish Jan 5, 2019 5:58 am


Originally Posted by flyer_tom (Post 30612888)
Huge thanks to KARFA for setting up the thread! Looking forward to seeing what TP runs people get up to and become available this year.



That's a lovely little TP run! I think I'm going to try and do something similar - although probably with only 1 AUH - CMB - CGK run. However at the moment the positioning flights are coming up in the several thousands for me!

How did you manage to get the position flight in W so cheap? I'm only looking on GF rather than through ITA - would that potentially have something to do with it? (Assume the 2 runs AUH - CGK are 2 separate nested tickets? Easy to B2B there)?

ITA (and I assume GF) have issues pricing up fares in WTP when there is a connection.

Use mulitcity and in advance routing use

f bc=t

for the long haul flights. Selecting economy in class rather than premium economy. This should then find economy flights on the domestic sectors and WTP on the long haul.

Fritz Jan 5, 2019 6:39 am

Just adding my own belated thanks to KARFA and the other contributors who make this such a great thread. I wish I was better organised to take advantage of some of the amazing offers I read about here. And Happy New Year to all. Cheers. Fritz

Dicksbits Jan 5, 2019 10:12 am


Originally Posted by thejohn (Post 30609818)
Here's what I have just booked which works out to 800 teir points and plus the positioning flights the day before and after get's me to gold again with 3 months to spare for €1239 and over 47000 Avios.

Could this sort of itinerary be booked online? BA multi city tool only allows 6 legs - sorry if this is a stupid Q!


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