Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jun 3, 2020, 5:33 pm
#5041
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The Independent has published some of the more detailed guidance on the quarantine border regulations, including the possibility of departure before the 14 day period is up. It's not an exemption issue, but one of scope.
"Leaving the UK before the two weeks is up
Returning to the place of origin abroad, or continuing to a third country, after less than 14 days is permissible so long as the traveller goes direct to the airport, ferry port or international railway station, and avoids public transport.".
- Overnight connections are fine as long as you head straight to the hotel and back to the airport next day, you would provide the hotel address on the Passenger Locator Form.
- Also under 4 (5)(b) on first arrival in the UK if necessary you can stay at a hotel overnight before completing your journey home next day, so for example if you arrive late in to LHR you can stay at a hotel before say getting your domestic connection next day, you just need to provide both the hotel address and the home address on the Passenger Locator Form
- Starting a new trip within 14 days of arriving back in the UK is fine. I don't see anywhere where it says you must not travel to the airport by public transport, it just says you must travel directly to the airport. Same for when you arrive in terms of travelling between the airport and home/hotel, no prohibition on using public transport, just that you must travel directly.
- The one thing I am not sure of is if you are doing a same day landside connection between airports, you don't fall under the exemption for transit passengers under Schedule 2 Part 2, 5 (1) & (2) since that is for people who do not enter the country. However, you can't provide an address on the Passenger Locator Form for where you would self-isolate since you aren't staying at an address in the UK. So no idea how they would deal with that - probably just let you carry on?
Last edited by KARFA; Jun 3, 2020 at 5:57 pm
Jun 3, 2020, 6:04 pm
#5042
Join Date: May 2003
Location: DEL
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Yes, I don't need to read the paper, I have just read the SI itself. See here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32426898-post751.html and here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32427412-post752.html
Jun 3, 2020, 6:08 pm
#5043
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landside same day connections? I don’t think there is an answer since there isn’t a provision for them. However you would hope the immigration officer would take the pragmatic view of allowing you to do it.
Jun 5, 2020, 6:26 am
#5044
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: Mucci, Untappd 8000+
Posts: 255
SOF fare INX1C1S6, created 05 June, expires infinity.
Looks a lot like INX1T1S6.
Looks a lot like INX1T1S6.
Jun 5, 2020, 6:31 am
#5045
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: BA Gold/ Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 401
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
-NO CHANGE CHARGE ONLY APPLIES FOR TICKETS ISSUED
BETWEEN 01MAR20 AND 30JUN20
Jun 7, 2020, 12:38 am
#5046
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
this is what i have found so far
but i think calling would be senseless. with each day passing i see less chance that travel restrictions to US and/or Canada will be eased. - but im absolutely open to second opinions.
for the record / for the laughter / for your personal amusement this is what I have found and what i should be allowed to book according to the rules. its 1160 TP and 54027 Avios
i see 4 options for me
1. take the money now
2. rebook (for more TP on the mighty "what might have been" pile) and take the voucher
3. wait and take the money later
4. rebook and fly (if its allowed)
i think the crucial question is, what BA(EC) announced for requalification in a few days after the April to June period has passed. when they have some kind of "you get, what you would have earned in case there was no corona virus, just show us your booked and cancelled tickets" then i might consider option 2
Last edited by Nephoi; Jun 7, 2020 at 2:03 am
Jun 7, 2020, 1:41 am
#5047
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
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Got off the phone earlier wth an AA agent, they confirmed the SOF is still all valid.
Had to call as I have problems re ticketing one SOF trip, on request thingy which wasn't fixed unfortunately, by changing to BA flight numbers.
But AA agent said BA schedule changes are causing problems. Not sure that's totally true but the AA agent was extremely helpful and assured me price would be honored.
Had to call as I have problems re ticketing one SOF trip, on request thingy which wasn't fixed unfortunately, by changing to BA flight numbers.
But AA agent said BA schedule changes are causing problems. Not sure that's totally true but the AA agent was extremely helpful and assured me price would be honored.
Jun 7, 2020, 4:46 am
#5048
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,061
It may surprise you, but codeshares are largely a manual process. Each flight has to be created manually in the other airline’s systems, and altered manually if the schedule is changed. With many more cancellations than usual, plus lots of their staff furloughed, it’s entirely feasible that what the AAgent said is correct.
Jun 7, 2020, 5:42 am
#5049
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Can I ask a question - please do not take it amiss. I am so impressed with some of these daft fares and routings believe me.
My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.
You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.
You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
Jun 7, 2020, 5:51 am
#5050
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
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Can I ask a question - please do not take it amiss. I am so impressed with some of these daft fares and routings believe me.
My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.
You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.
You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
Jun 7, 2020, 5:52 am
#5051
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
Jun 7, 2020, 6:24 am
#5052
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Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
Jun 7, 2020, 6:28 am
#5053
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lol. I really admire you boys who year on year traipse round the world chasing tier points to get a concorde room card or whatever. I must confess i did do this a little myself around a decade ago but the years caught up with me and i basically cant be bothered any more. To me, looking back, it has been the waste of a great deal of money. Others would be baffled that i would take complex routing such as the above and for what, to dine in the very tired concorde room at T5 and sink a few single malts.
Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
However, flying
LHR-SOF-LHR-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-HEL-LHR-SOF-LHR in J is cheaper than LHR-LAX-LHR in J.
When performing a TP run, people are also saving money, and getting extra benefits at the same time.
Jun 7, 2020, 6:30 am
#5054
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
lol. I really admire you boys who year on year traipse round the world chasing tier points to get a concorde room card or whatever. I must confess i did do this a little myself around a decade ago but the years caught up with me and i basically cant be bothered any more. To me, looking back, it has been the waste of a great deal of money. Others would be baffled that i would take complex routing such as the above and for what, to dine in the very tired concorde room at T5 and sink a few single malts.
Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
sometimes you can get the impression that mankind hasnt evolved that far and we're Hunter-gatherer
but now its not meat or fur, its tier points and avios.and what can you do with those avios? thats the best part of it: NOTHING! *giggles*
gosh, can someone help me with my dilemma stated above? on the one side i really want to call AA and reroute to a 15 flight itiniary, on the other hand, cash is king.. and i dont see any possibility for a July holiday in North America... ugh.
Jun 7, 2020, 6:35 am
#5055
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for example JFK-LAX-PHL