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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct Ł0.96/TP Ł154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb Ł1.90/TP Ł152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug Ł2.06/TP Ł329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul Ł2.99/TP Ł2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec Ł1.90/TP Ł1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr Ł2.29/TP Ł640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan Ł1.52/TP Ł668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr Ł0.90/TP Ł215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr Ł 0.76/TP Ł 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr Ł 1.04/TP Ł 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May Ł 0.70/TP Ł 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun Ł 0.52/TP Ł 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 Ł0.95/TP Ł479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB Ł1.49/TP Ł1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 Ł2.07/TP Ł2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 Ł1.80/TP Ł721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
#4456
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Pilot37
#4457
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SOF is very easy to conduct a b2b, I did it twice in January. You decant into the departure area, although some people have ventured further afield to the lounge (not very worthwhile from what I have read), I decided to stay around the gate area and boarded when called.
Pilot37
Pilot37
#4459
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...tinations.html
The WIKI in this thread suggests that recent B2B experiences in SOF are excellent.
The WIKI in this thread suggests that recent B2B experiences in SOF are excellent.
SOF is very easy to conduct a b2b, I did it twice in January. You decant into the departure area, although some people have ventured further afield to the lounge (not very worthwhile from what I have read), I decided to stay around the gate area and boarded when called.
Pilot37
Pilot37
#4460
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Took advantage of the SOF fare, but starting in AMS and returning to SOF. Far easier for the night before B2B in AMS out at 18.40 back at 22.05. A days annual leave saved !
#4461
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However, it's 40TP less in total.
#4462
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#4463
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Yes, starting in AMS would make a €100 difference which might be worth for people who don't live in London as they would need to pay for a hotel on the way to HNL. ( Mandatory overnight connection ). Plus a positioning flight to SOF could make the trip more expensive for some others.
However, it's 40TP less in total.
However, it's 40TP less in total.
#4464
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
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This is my first-time post so bear with the newbie and if I have this in the wrong place... I tried to book this tier point run today and the price has just doubled but the booking class has stayed the same? Will the price go back down anyone thoughts would be appreciated
Sofia (SOF) to London (LHR) — Thu, Sep 3 British Airways 891 Dep: 8:40 pm Arr: 10:10 pm 3h 30m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Layover in LHR
10h 15m London (LHR) to New York (JFK) — Fri, Sep 4 American 6930 Dep: 8:25 am Arr: 11:05 am 7h 40m Boeing 747 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS Layover in JFK
5h 25m New York (JFK) to San Francisco (SFO) — Fri, Sep 4 American 2305 Dep: 4:30 pm Arr: 8:07 pm 6h 37m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in SFO
9h 33m San Francisco (SFO) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Sat, Sep 5 American 6019 Dep: 5:40 am Arr: 6:58 am 1h 18m Embraer RJ-175 First (I)
OPERATED BY COMPASS AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLE
Los Angeles (LAX) to Sofia (SOF) — Mon, Sep 14
Los Angeles (LAX) to San Francisco (SFO) — Mon, Sep 14 American 2861 Dep: 8:00 am Arr: 9:09 am 1h 9m Boeing 737 First (I)
Layover in SFO
2h 6m San Francisco (SFO) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Sep 14 American 16 Dep: 11:15 am Arr: 7:37 pm 5h 22m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in JFK
3h 23m New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Mon, Sep 14 American 6941 Dep: 11:00 pm Arr: 11:05 am 7h 5m Boeing 777 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS Layover in LHR Tue, Sep 15 3h 35m London (LHR) to Sofia (SOF) — Tue, Sep 15 American 6380 Dep: 2:40 pm Arr: 7:50 pm 3h 10m Airbus A320 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) Ł985.39 Total cost for 1 passenger Ł985.39
Mileage
Sofia (SOF) to London (LHR) — Thu, Sep 3 British Airways 891 Dep: 8:40 pm Arr: 10:10 pm 3h 30m Airbus A320 Business (J)
Layover in LHR
10h 15m London (LHR) to New York (JFK) — Fri, Sep 4 American 6930 Dep: 8:25 am Arr: 11:05 am 7h 40m Boeing 747 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS Layover in JFK
5h 25m New York (JFK) to San Francisco (SFO) — Fri, Sep 4 American 2305 Dep: 4:30 pm Arr: 8:07 pm 6h 37m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in SFO
9h 33m San Francisco (SFO) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Sat, Sep 5 American 6019 Dep: 5:40 am Arr: 6:58 am 1h 18m Embraer RJ-175 First (I)
OPERATED BY COMPASS AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLE
Los Angeles (LAX) to Sofia (SOF) — Mon, Sep 14
Los Angeles (LAX) to San Francisco (SFO) — Mon, Sep 14 American 2861 Dep: 8:00 am Arr: 9:09 am 1h 9m Boeing 737 First (I)
Layover in SFO
2h 6m San Francisco (SFO) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Sep 14 American 16 Dep: 11:15 am Arr: 7:37 pm 5h 22m Airbus A321 (Sharklets) Business (I)
Layover in JFK
3h 23m New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Mon, Sep 14 American 6941 Dep: 11:00 pm Arr: 11:05 am 7h 5m Boeing 777 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS Layover in LHR Tue, Sep 15 3h 35m London (LHR) to Sofia (SOF) — Tue, Sep 15 American 6380 Dep: 2:40 pm Arr: 7:50 pm 3h 10m Airbus A320 Business (I) OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) Ł985.39 Total cost for 1 passenger Ł985.39
Mileage
Last edited by Komodromou; Apr 8, 2020 at 5:24 pm Reason: attached wrong flights
#4465
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Welcome to the thread.
So I think the problem for you isn’t selling class availability, it’s the fare rules for that low fare. There is a 180 advanced purchase requirement so the earliest you can book for atm is October. We may get some cheap fares for September at some point but sales are always difficult to predict.
So I think the problem for you isn’t selling class availability, it’s the fare rules for that low fare. There is a 180 advanced purchase requirement so the earliest you can book for atm is October. We may get some cheap fares for September at some point but sales are always difficult to predict.
#4466
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Komodromou you may need to check the fare rules. Some have a 6 month advance purchase restriction... Good luck - it's a great fare.
#4467
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Head in hands - beaten by Karfa
#4468
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Thanks for the fast reply. On the 7th when I was looking at the fairs I could find Availablity from August for around 980 GBP does this mean they have just changed the rules altogether so that I have to book for October now? I'm really sorry if this is all very basic stuff for you guys as well I'm just trying to get to grips with FT. TIA
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Thanks for the fast reply. On the 7th when I was looking at the fairs I could find Availablity from August for around 980 GBP does this mean they have just changed the rules altogether so that I have to book for October now? I'm really sorry if this is all very basic stuff for you guys as well I'm just trying to get to grips with FT. TIA
No, there was always a 180-day advance purchase rule for this special fare. You need to book at least 180 days before in order to benefit from this promotional fare. Probably, the 980GBP that you have seen for September was a possible glitch.
This is what is written on the fare rules
Spoiler
#4470
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First, let me mention that you are always welcome to ask beginner questions here in FlyerTalk; please do not hesitate to ask them if you have more of them.
No, there was always a 180-day advance purchase rule for this special fare. You need to book at least 180 days before in order to benefit from this promotional fare. Probably, the 980GBP that you have seen for September was a possible glitch.
This is what is written on the fare rules
If you have a fair in September, AMS would be your best option to start your trip to LAX for 1428 GBP which also requires advance booking but 180 days rather than 90 days.
No, there was always a 180-day advance purchase rule for this special fare. You need to book at least 180 days before in order to benefit from this promotional fare. Probably, the 980GBP that you have seen for September was a possible glitch.
This is what is written on the fare rules
Spoiler
If you have a fair in September, AMS would be your best option to start your trip to LAX for 1428 GBP which also requires advance booking but 180 days rather than 90 days.
Thanks for the reply and the humble welcome I had AMEX price up the September fair and seems it could have just been a momentary lapse in price. I may just wait for a sale to come as KARFA said. Bummed out, trying to work with the October dates but hotels for palm springs and LA are killer in October with Coachella now on