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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by MachTwoPointO
Just wanted to drop a quick message to say thanks to everyone that’s contributed to this and previous threads on tier point runs. Finally secured my first Silver card! Now, how to go about those pesky 460TPs for Gold!
I should have a work trip to NBO coming up, and being able to book flights myself (rather than the business booking them for me) means I can “optimise” my flights.

Thanks again!
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 1:13 pm
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My first post on FlyerTalk after being a long time observer!

Currently pricing up a relatively last minute trip to Buenos Aires. With a TP run combined.

Priced at £2,269.34 for 760TP (£2.99/TP). Improvements or suggestions much appreciated.

Can't upload image in first 5 posts but here is the itinerary:

OUT
Oslo (OSL) to London (LHR) — Mon, Feb 3
Dep: 11:45 am
Arr: 1:20 pm
2h 35m

Layover in LHR ---16h 55m

London (LHR) to Barcelona (BCN) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 6:15 am
Arr: 9:20 am
2h 5m

Layover in BCN --- 1h 20m

Barcelona (BCN) to New York (JFK) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 10:40 am
Arr: 1:35 pm
8h 55m

Layover in JFK --- 4h 55m

New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 6:30 pm
Arr: 9:52 pm
3h 22m

Layover in MIA --- 1h 3m

Miami (MIA) to Buenos Aires (EZE) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 10:55 pm
Arr: 9:56 am
9h 1m

RETURN
Buenos Aires (EZE) to New York (JFK) — Wed, Feb 12
Dep: 11:07 pm
Arr: 7:56 am
10h 49m

Layover in JFK --- 1h 29m

New York (JFK) to Boston (BOS) — Thu, Feb 13
Dep: 9:25 am
Arr: 10:41 am
1h 16m

Layover in BOS --- 7h 39m

Boston (BOS) to London (LHR) — Thu, Feb 13
Dep: 6:20 pm
Arr: 5:55 am
6h 35m

Layover in LHR --- 1h 15m

London (LHR) to Manchester (MAN) — Fri, Feb 14
Dep: 7:10 am
Arr: 8:20 am
1h 10m
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ckeiderling
My first post on FlyerTalk after being a long time observer!

Currently pricing up a relatively last minute trip to Buenos Aires. With a TP run combined.

Priced at £2,269.34 for 760TP (£2.99/TP). Improvements or suggestions much appreciated.

Can't upload image in first 5 posts but here is the itinerary:

OUT
Oslo (OSL) to London (LHR) — Mon, Feb 3
Dep: 11:45 am
Arr: 1:20 pm
2h 35m

Layover in LHR ---16h 55m

London (LHR) to Barcelona (BCN) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 6:15 am
Arr: 9:20 am
2h 5m

Layover in BCN --- 1h 20m

Barcelona (BCN) to New York (JFK) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 10:40 am
Arr: 1:35 pm
8h 55m

Layover in JFK --- 4h 55m

New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 6:30 pm
Arr: 9:52 pm
3h 22m

Layover in MIA --- 1h 3m

Miami (MIA) to Buenos Aires (EZE) — Tue, Feb 4
Dep: 10:55 pm
Arr: 9:56 am
9h 1m

RETURN
Buenos Aires (EZE) to New York (JFK) — Wed, Feb 12
Dep: 11:07 pm
Arr: 7:56 am
10h 49m

Layover in JFK --- 1h 29m

New York (JFK) to Boston (BOS) — Thu, Feb 13
Dep: 9:25 am
Arr: 10:41 am
1h 16m

Layover in BOS --- 7h 39m

Boston (BOS) to London (LHR) — Thu, Feb 13
Dep: 6:20 pm
Arr: 5:55 am
6h 35m

Layover in LHR --- 1h 15m

London (LHR) to Manchester (MAN) — Fri, Feb 14
Dep: 7:10 am
Arr: 8:20 am
1h 10m
forstly, welcome to FT, paging @corporate-wage-slave for your official welcome, but hopefully we can help in the meantime improve your TP run, my first thought is the JFK-MIa and MIA-BOS are too short and if you want to maximise TPs, it might be worth flying a bit further west to get a transcon in the mix...

post post note, ignore me, it bumps the proce up by £600, I doth my cap to how you found your routing (I can’t even get its matrix to take that routing). my personal rules are up to 3TP/£ for a place I need to visit, up to 2TP/£ if I have Carer blanch or where to go so I’d stick with your itinerary and enjoy the trip.

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Old Jan 20, 2020, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ckeiderling
My first post on FlyerTalk after being a long time observer!
Indeed welcome to Flyertalk ckeiderling and welcome to the BA forum. It's good to see you here and I hope that we will see more of you in the future.

Though there are quite a few sectors in that, nevertheless is a relatively sensible routing, and the more complexity you add, the more likely that one component goes wrong and throws everything up in the air. So you could add in more USA sectors, or stay a bit longer in the USA to get some of their lower cost sectors as side trips. But there is an argument for accepting this as an efficient use of time and money, and therefore leaving it as it is.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by deboyzoned
Go via HNL. Only a joke 😊
Haha I can see the look on my managers face when I email him a copy of the itinerary!
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 2:28 pm
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Thanks for the welcome!

Indeed, good recommendations, I've tried adding extra sectors on both the US and EU side but in every case I've tried it causes the price to go to the 5k+ range.

Unless I'm missing a trick I don't think I can squeeze any more journeys in.

Likewise, trying to route over to LAX or SFO connections causes the price to jump up.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
As Flying Yazata notes, the simplest option here is to tack on a domestic leg (so e.g. LON - XXX/XXX-LON-MAN) and then train home or fly back to London depending on price and timing.

Your options are getting quite limited now though, given the constraint of fitting it in to a weekend and being only 14 days away (also as HEL is I believe a popular destination for that weekend Mini do: Helsinki, 31 Jan to 02 Feb, 2020

Here are couple of suggestions though - all around the 500/550 GBP mark and leaving Sat 2nd back on the 3rd (or for option (3) early on the 4th):

(1) trip to HEL and back avoiding the crowds (back to back return - would be a shame to miss the DO though) https://flights.app.goo.gl/xtQQZ

(2) day trip to Marrakech - just enough time to snaffle a tagine before returning if you plan things in advance https://flights.app.goo.gl/yXZ7y

(3) thinking outside the box - a Big Apple adventure - if you can handle arriving late at work on Monday morning the a return in WTP will also net you the TPs needed for a similar price (a bit higher though if you force an earlier return arrival time in London) https://flights.app.goo.gl/JjfET
Thank you! Yes, the domestic connection was almost forgotten. But your Option (2) is quite appealing but need to check if a visa is required. I did not know the midi do in Helsinki, which is also still an option. Thank you again!
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue
Thank you! Yes, the domestic connection was almost forgotten. But your Option (2) is quite appealing but need to check if a visa is required. I did not know the midi do in Helsinki, which is also still an option. Thank you again!
I certainly hope that a visa is not needed (UK passport) - as I am flying to Marrakech this weekend and don't have one!

Availability in the lower price buckets for the routes linked to above has already gone - the daytrip to RAK on Sat. 2nd for example is now coming up at around 700 GBP. If you have a large Avios stash maybe worth though using some of those to reduce the price and make the deal more palatable. Hope in any case you can find something that works for you.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
I certainly hope that a visa is not needed (UK passport) - as I am flying to Marrakech this weekend and don't have one!
Panic not, you don’t need one with a UK passport! I had a couple of days there between Xmas & NY to help get me to gold renewal.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 am
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Looking for some advice on best runs to maximize TPs over a weekend run in July Fri 10 to Mon 13 July. I am based in London but could position somewhere Thurs evening however I need to be back in London on Monday morning. Thoughts or ideas of what I can go investigate would be gratefully received.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by NorthUistFlyer
Looking for some advice on best runs to maximize TPs over a weekend run in July Fri 10 to Mon 13 July. I am based in London but could position somewhere Thurs evening however I need to be back in London on Monday morning. Thoughts or ideas of what I can go investigate would be gratefully received.
In this thread's spirit, I should start by asking: what have you found so far in your own searches?

Start by having a look at these: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31966826-post3624.html

If that doesn't work, you can have a look at flying back and forth between HEL and SOF for 80 TPs each way, or try to get HEL-AGP on Finnair for an acceptable price (as low as 420 GBP return when I looked a couple of weeks back, but July would probably be more expensive), for 140TPs each way.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by alex67500
If that doesn't work, you can have a look at flying back and forth between HEL and SOF for 80 TPs each way, or try to get HEL-AGP on Finnair for an acceptable price (as low as 420 GBP return when I looked a couple of weeks back, but July would probably be more expensive), for 140TPs each way.
I am planning a TP run in a couple of weeks doing LHR - HEL with a HEL - AGP nested. I am trying to get the HEL - AGP back-to-back, it shows on Googleflights (similar price to the above) but Finnairs site wont allow me to book it - I am guessing I need to call Finnair - can I call BA Goldline and book this, or do I speak to Finnair? The BA LHR - HEL is fine as I will do this the day before and day after so its only the back-to-back.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by tomgone
I am planning a TP run in a couple of weeks doing LHR - HEL with a HEL - AGP nested. I am trying to get the HEL - AGP back-to-back, it shows on Googleflights (similar price to the above) but Finnairs site wont allow me to book it - I am guessing I need to call Finnair - can I call BA Goldline and book this, or do I speak to Finnair? The BA LHR - HEL is fine as I will do this the day before and day after so its only the back-to-back.
I don't think BA will be interested in selling you a HEL-AGP rtn. I think call AY or try an online TA.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I don't think BA will be interested in selling you a HEL-AGP rtn. I think call AY or try an online TA.
OK I thought so - will call AY - thank you for the feedback
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by tomgone
OK I thought so - will call AY - thank you for the feedback
Bookwithmatrix ought to work too.
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