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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
#2626
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London
Programs: BAEC (blue), HHonors (gold), Marriot (gold), Hertz/ Avis (PC)
Posts: 241
So... I'm completely out of practice at this (not that I was great to begin with!). Any suggestions for a run at the back end of November (around 4 days starting 22nd)?
I've tried to put in the OTP-PHXs but don't seem to get anything interesting. I reckon I can swing about £1500-2k ish and would like to make gold again... Right now I'm silver with 50 points on the board (I know, I know!)
In complete honesty, the main drivers are:
1. My year end is 8/12
2. That happens to be my bday weekend and I find sitting in premium seats kinda fun!
I've tried to put in the OTP-PHXs but don't seem to get anything interesting. I reckon I can swing about £1500-2k ish and would like to make gold again... Right now I'm silver with 50 points on the board (I know, I know!)
In complete honesty, the main drivers are:
1. My year end is 8/12
2. That happens to be my bday weekend and I find sitting in premium seats kinda fun!
#2627
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,991
So... I'm completely out of practice at this (not that I was great to begin with!). Any suggestions for a run at the back end of November (around 4 days starting 22nd)?
I've tried to put in the OTP-PHXs but don't seem to get anything interesting. I reckon I can swing about £1500-2k ish and would like to make gold again... Right now I'm silver with 50 points on the board (I know, I know!)
In complete honesty, the main drivers are:
1. My year end is 8/12
2. That happens to be my bday weekend and I find sitting in premium seats kinda fun!
I've tried to put in the OTP-PHXs but don't seem to get anything interesting. I reckon I can swing about £1500-2k ish and would like to make gold again... Right now I'm silver with 50 points on the board (I know, I know!)
In complete honesty, the main drivers are:
1. My year end is 8/12
2. That happens to be my bday weekend and I find sitting in premium seats kinda fun!
Otherwise, I'm seeing OTP-PHX availability for 22 November, via LHR and BOS, for £1,500. But it's only 720 TPs.
#2628
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London
Programs: BAEC (blue), HHonors (gold), Marriot (gold), Hertz/ Avis (PC)
Posts: 241
Yep - year end is december 8th and I only have 50 points.
I guess I could delay for a couple of weeks but need to stay clear of Xmas. Would definitely hold off if I can net 1450 for my budget (crazy not to!)
I guess I could delay for a couple of weeks but need to stay clear of Xmas. Would definitely hold off if I can net 1450 for my budget (crazy not to!)
#2629
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
If you have only 50TP is gold going to offer you much, or do you have a lot of flying coming up.
#2630
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: airmiles
Posts: 10
BA Website
Why is it that sometimes when I do a flight search on the BA site I get a week tab list of the lowest fares (which is good) but sometimes I get a 'Choose your flights.prices will be displayed on the next page' screen, which is rubbish and really annoying!
Thanks
Thanks
#2631
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Worcester, GB
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 157
Amazing trip..
I was pretty proud about mine already.
I found a BA fare.. Not AA this time for 1500 pounds.
OTP lhr jfk lax phx
Phx lax lhr otp
Where I got BA directly to use my guf2 for lhr jfk and lax lhr return for my partner and me.
So the first lax flight full flat in C. And the other on 1a and k 747.. No surcharge for the guf and the first time for me to book into revenue class thru ba.
Should give 800tp and very much fun.
I was pretty proud about mine already.
I found a BA fare.. Not AA this time for 1500 pounds.
OTP lhr jfk lax phx
Phx lax lhr otp
Where I got BA directly to use my guf2 for lhr jfk and lax lhr return for my partner and me.
So the first lax flight full flat in C. And the other on 1a and k 747.. No surcharge for the guf and the first time for me to book into revenue class thru ba.
Should give 800tp and very much fun.
#2632
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: LAX
Programs: NW 1MM, BD Gold, BA Gold, AA 1MM, LM, VX eleVAte, Hyatt D6, SPG Plat, Hertz President's
Posts: 304
When working out the bang for the buck don't forget to factor in the cost of positioning flights and hotels. Depending on where you're based, other options might end up offering a better overall $/TP ratio. If these are places you want to visit anyway, of course, and you're treating the TP run as a holiday, then that's less important.
Hoping for some further information about the possibility of sale fares for the Middle East-CMB-CGK runs...
EDIT: Well...THIS looks promising:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31457229-post421.html
#2633
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 32
To Dougzz
Why would you gain Gold for two years when you've only hit 1500 once?
I've never heard of that before.
Why would you gain Gold for two years when you've only hit 1500 once?
I've never heard of that before.
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#2634
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,291
When you qualify for status, it's for the following year, but you also get it for the current year if you don't have it yet. So if you got 1500 TPs for the first time in the first 2 months of your collection year you would effectively have Gold status for 22 months (plus 2 "extra" months before the card expires) plus a soft landing to silver the following year.
#2635
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 46
The Plan
After reading the fare rules for the OTP-PHX fare, I think I'm going to use it to qualify for silver this year *and* next year.
On November 26th, I'll start OTP-LHR(BA)-AMS(BA)-LHR(BA)-EWR(BA)-PHX (440TP+my current stash) and and then do the return PHX-EWR-LHR(BA)-AMS(BA)-LHR(BA)-OTP(BA) (440TP+other travel) in July of next year. I'm prioritizing on getting my BA flights in over TP maximization.
Fare is £1492.
I'll use 22K+160USD avios positioning between OTP-DOH, and another 15K+10USD between BUR-PHX. Figure another $200 for hotels in Bucharest (I have family in Amsterdam...), and all in it's going to be about £1800 and leave me level on avios. The entire enterprise will net £2/TP. Not great, not terrible, but workable. Thoughts?
On November 26th, I'll start OTP-LHR(BA)-AMS(BA)-LHR(BA)-EWR(BA)-PHX (440TP+my current stash) and and then do the return PHX-EWR-LHR(BA)-AMS(BA)-LHR(BA)-OTP(BA) (440TP+other travel) in July of next year. I'm prioritizing on getting my BA flights in over TP maximization.
Fare is £1492.
I'll use 22K+160USD avios positioning between OTP-DOH, and another 15K+10USD between BUR-PHX. Figure another $200 for hotels in Bucharest (I have family in Amsterdam...), and all in it's going to be about £1800 and leave me level on avios. The entire enterprise will net £2/TP. Not great, not terrible, but workable. Thoughts?
#2636
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 5
160 TP advice
Hi, I am looking for 160 TP. I am based in Manchester and one trip I have found is Dublin via LHr return. I presume this is 160TP. The cost is £400 so around £2.25 per TP. I wondered if this was a good price or if anyone had a better suggested route? Deadline is 6 November. Thanks.
#2637
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,091
Hi, I am looking for 160 TP. I am based in Manchester and one trip I have found is Dublin via LHr return. I presume this is 160TP. The cost is £400 so around £2.25 per TP. I wondered if this was a good price or if anyone had a better suggested route? Deadline is 6 November. Thanks.
#2638
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: DXB
Programs: BA Gold; EK Gold; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 72
Hi, I am looking for 160 TP. I am based in Manchester and one trip I have found is Dublin via LHr return. I presume this is 160TP. The cost is £400 so around £2.25 per TP. I wondered if this was a good price or if anyone had a better suggested route? Deadline is 6 November. Thanks.
#2639
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 152
Hi all,
I have a number of flights booked between now and November that will get me to Silver and then just 440 TP away from Gold. My year ends on 08 Feb 2020, what runs should I be taking to make that happen?
Total newbie to all of this so apologies if that’s a stupid question! Thanks
I have a number of flights booked between now and November that will get me to Silver and then just 440 TP away from Gold. My year ends on 08 Feb 2020, what runs should I be taking to make that happen?
Total newbie to all of this so apologies if that’s a stupid question! Thanks
#2640
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Falkirk, Scotland,VS Red, BA Gold, HH Diamond,UK Amex Plat
Programs: Master of the Privy Purse des Muccis
Posts: 17,907
Hi all,
I have a number of flights booked between now and November that will get me to Silver and then just 440 TP away from Gold. My year ends on 08 Feb 2020, what runs should I be taking to make that happen?
Total newbie to all of this so apologies if that’s a stupid question! Thanks
I have a number of flights booked between now and November that will get me to Silver and then just 440 TP away from Gold. My year ends on 08 Feb 2020, what runs should I be taking to make that happen?
Total newbie to all of this so apologies if that’s a stupid question! Thanks
Where are you based please as this will help us provide some appropriate advice?
Regards
TBS