BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition

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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last yearsí archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
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2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
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Old Jun 11, 19, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by hula1973 View Post
Thank you - the shortest connection is in LAX connecting from PHX to JFK so should be ok.

Is it normal for the price to differ when I transfer the details from ITA to bookwithmatrix - itís showing itís £200 more!!
I'm afraid I've never had much success with bookwithmatrix, so I shall leave that to someone else. I usually just enter the details of the itinerary again into aa.com.

If you're prepared to wait 24 hours (and risk losing the fare) you'll be able to post a screenshot tomorrow and then we can offer better assistance.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by hula1973 View Post


Hello, Iím a complete amateur at TP runs so bear with me. Iím building up the courage to take a TP run, probably OTP-PHX. Iíve seen one in August for £1,449 - 09 -12 August. Could someone with an experienced eye take a look at it and see a) if itís doable and b) if thereís anything I need to be aware of!!

Iíve tried to attach a screenshot but seems Iím not allowed

Many thanks 🙏
I can price a straightforward OTP-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHX-LAX-JFK-LHR-OTP by using Matrix and then using Powertools to feed it to AA.com. £1450ish for 800TPs.

I haven't tried particularly hard but I couldn't get the HEL return into it easily.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by kingstontoon View Post
MH TPE-KUL-DPS and return in business is available for £401 at the moment - dates through the summer (at least). Bookable via Expedia. Books in Z so should earn a total of 360 tier points, which is pretty good. Lie flat beds on the TPE sectors.
I must be missing something....Seeing GBP 567 as the cheapest in Jul/Aug and Jan/Feb.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 8:25 am
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I must be missing something....Seeing GBP 567 as the cheapest in Jul/Aug and Jan/Feb.
There fare comes and goes. Also note max stay is usually 1 month.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 8:31 am
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I must be missing something....Seeing GBP 567 as the cheapest in Jul/Aug and Jan/Feb.
Try 7-14 August or 4-11 September using Google Flights. You'll usually need to wait 10+ seconds for the MH fares to "fall into place" and then click through to Expedia. The calendar view on Google Flights doesn't seem to show MH for some reason.
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Old Jun 11, 19, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by kingstontoon View Post
Try 7-14 August or 4-11 September using Google Flights. You'll usually need to wait 10+ seconds for the MH fares to "fall into place" and then click through to Expedia. The calendar view on Google Flights doesn't seem to show MH for some reason.
Thanks! I guess I wasn't patient enough!
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Old Jun 11, 19, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404 View Post
I can price a straightforward OTP-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHX-LAX-JFK-LHR-OTP by using Matrix and then using Powertools to feed it to AA.com. £1450ish for 800TPs.

I haven't tried particularly hard but I couldn't get the HEL return into it easily.
Powertools? - forgive my ignorance but that sounds very technical. Iíve only just got my head around using ITA Software then copying into Ďbooking with matrixí!

£1450 sounds tempting though!
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Old Jun 11, 19, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by hula1973 View Post
Powertools? - forgive my ignorance but that sounds very technical. Iíve only just got my head around using ITA Software then copying into Ďbooking with matrixí!

£1450 sounds tempting though!
Powertools "scrapes" the flight information from the ITA screen and pastes it all into the website of your chosen airline, allowing you to book the itinerary without having to re-enter all the details. It works pretty well.

ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK
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Old Jun 12, 19, 5:47 am
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[QUOTE=Misco60;31192219]Powertools "scrapes" the flight information from the ITA screen and pastes it all into the website of your chosen airline, allowing you to book the itinerary without having to re-enter all the details. It works pretty

Thank you - Iíve surprised myself and seem to have managed to set it up! Is it useful for regular itineraries or TP runs specifically?
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Old Jun 12, 19, 8:27 am
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Afternoon Everyone!

Have I had fun reading through all the posts, so much to learn..... that being said I would really like to do a TP run to try and hit gold - can anyone help point me in the right direction or spend a little bit of time with me to get my first run under my belt?

TIA
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Old Jun 12, 19, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by Brad Perrow View Post
Afternoon Everyone!

Have I had fun reading through all the posts, so much to learn..... that being said I would really like to do a TP run to try and hit gold - can anyone help point me in the right direction or spend a little bit of time with me to get my first run under my belt?

TIA
Hello Brad,

Considering it's your first post, I hope you've found this thread and the BA section in particular to be helpful thus far. I'm sure one of the ambassadors will welcome you shortly.

Generally a post such as yours would be frowned upon as it doesn't give us anything to go on besides a request for help. The folks here are knowledgeable and able to help, but as a starting point could I suggest:
1. How many TPs do you earn organically?
2. When does your collection year end?
3. What is your budget?
4. Where are you based and if London, are you open to ex-EU?
5. Are there any locations you prefer, or would rather avoid?

This will help the community suggest a routing/fare to generate the required TPs within your timeframe and/or budget.
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Old Jun 12, 19, 8:47 am
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Hi BA707,

what a rookie error on my part and I appreciate you taking the time to show me the way

ok here goes

1. I earn around 3-325 a year organically
2. collection year ends 08/01/2020
3. I would ideally like to keep costs down (wouldn't we all) but around the £1500 mark would be a good place to be
4. Yes based in London, and very open to ex-EU
5. locations - I'm very open. I liked the look of the one Hula1973 proposed hitting New York, Los Angeles etc

Thank you again so much
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Old Jun 12, 19, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by BA707 View Post
I must be missing something....Seeing GBP 567 as the cheapest in Jul/Aug and Jan/Feb.
Can't post URL to image until 5 posts, but just priced up TPE-KUL-DPS in Z class on Malaysian website for £401 (TWD 15,976), searched originally through Momondo for 6th-9th August. This fare not coming up in ITA and Google flights.

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Old Jun 12, 19, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by Brad Perrow View Post
1. I earn around 3-325 a year organically
2. collection year ends 08/01/2020
3. I would ideally like to keep costs down (wouldn't we all) but around the £1500 mark would be a good place to be
4. Yes based in London, and very open to ex-EU
5. locations - I'm very open. I liked the look of the one Hula1973 proposed hitting New York, Los Angeles etc
You have about six months to achieve this so you have time on your side. Unfortunately £1500 for 1200TP is £1.25/TP which isn't quite enough these days as they typically start at £1.50/TP plus positioning.

That said, (arguably) the best value right now is AUH/DXB-CGK on UL.
Ticket 1:
08/10/2019 LHR 12:45 - AUH 23:05
15/10/2019 AUH 01:50 - LHR 06:30
Basic Economy O, 40TP, £340

Alternative
07/10/2019 LHR 17:05 - AMM 00:10 +1
08/10/2019 AMM 21:30 - AUH 01:40 +1
15/10/2019 AUH 07:20 - AMM - LHR 15:25
Economy W, 50TP, £362

Ticket 2:
09/10/2019 AUH 23:00 - CMB - CGK 13:30 +1
11/10/2019 CGK 14:24 - CMB - AUH 22:00
Business I, 140 * 4 = 560TP, £676

Ticket 3:
12/10/2019 AUH 23:00 - CMB - CGK 13:30 +1
14/10/2019 CGK 14:24 - CMB - AUH 22:00
Business I, 140 * 4 = 560TP, £676

The run is 1120TP @ £1352 = £1.21/TP
Assuming you go with BA for positioning, 1160TP @ £1692 = £1.46/TP, plus 2 nights each in AUH and CGK.
You'll need 340TP elsewhere and don't forget the 4 BA flights (2 of which are here).

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Old Jun 12, 19, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by hula1973 View Post
Is it useful for regular itineraries or TP runs specifically?
You can use Powertools for any itinerary, but it's obviously most useful when you've spent some time putting together a complex itinerary in Matrix and don't want to have to enter all the details again in the airline booking engine.

It's not without its problems, though: there have been many times when I've used Powertools and gone right through to the final booking screen on the airline's site (usually AA, in my case) only to get an error. In those cases I find that it usually works if I start again and enter the flights from scratch.
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