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Current Business Class Deals

Europe
LGW-BOD BA Ł142
LHR-LUX BA Ł145
LGW-AMS BA Ł145
LGW-CGN BA Ł146
LHR-INV BA Ł157
LHR-SOF BA Ł209
LHR-HEL BA Ł228
LGW-MLA BA Ł236
BCN-MOW BA Ł717

Middle East
MAD-TLV IB Ł562

Asia
ADB-HKT/BKK Ł962
ADB-DPS Ł1,069
MAD-PVG BA Ł1,086
OSL-PKX BA Ł1,200
SOF-CMB QR Ł1,087
WAW-DEL QR Ł1,088
BEG-BKK/HKT QR Ł1,102
EVN-PEK QR Ł1,122
DME-BKK/HKT QR Ł1,129
ZAG-BKK QR Ł1,151
ADB-ICN QR Ł1,161
SOF-SIN QR Ł1,186
BEG-HKG QR Ł1,207
OSL-SIN QR Ł1,220
SVO-ICN AY Ł1,288

Oceania
ADB-SYN QR Ł1,837
GOT-PER QR Ł2,083
SOF-AKL QR Ł2,106
OSL-AKL QR Ł2,199

North America
AMS-YUL BA Ł1,201
AMS-YVR/YYC BA Ł1,548
MAN/EDI-YVR/SEA BA/AA Ł1,559
LON-SFO BA/AA Ł1,568
DME-HNL BA/AA Ł1,939

South America
AMS-BOG IB Ł1,320

Africa
ADB-CPT QR Ł1,002
TXL-NBO BA Ł1,196
OSL-CPT QR Ł1,338
Intra-Asia
TPE-DPS MH Ł472
TPE-DPS CX Ł523
TPE-CGK CX Ł547
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 4:30 am
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some good biz fare LHR-JFK/MIA-LAX
I can see only October

You can get silver card with it


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Fare rules & restrictions
American (AA) SKX8C1M4 LON to LAX
General notes
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 12DEC 18 THROUGH 18DEC 18 OR 30MAR 19 THROUGH
26APR 19 OR 24MAY 19 THROUGH 05JUL 19 OR 20AUG 19
THROUGH 26OCT 19 OR 28MAR 20 THROUGH 03JUL 20 OR
18AUG 20 THROUGH 24OCT 20 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED 01JAN 19 THROUGH 09JAN 19 OR 07APR 19 THROUGH
26APR 19 OR 24MAY 19 THROUGH 17JUL 19 OR 08SEP 19
THROUGH 28OCT 19 OR 01JAN 20 THROUGH 09JAN 20 OR
06APR 20 THROUGH 15JUL 20 OR 07SEP 20 THROUGH 26OCT 20
FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHT 6201
AA FLIGHT 6202
AA FLIGHT 6205
AA FLIGHT 6206
AA FLIGHT 6209
AA FLIGHT 6211
AA FLIGHT 6164
AA FLIGHT 6166
AA FLIGHT 6176
AA FLIGHT 6227
AA FLIGHT 6175
AA FLIGHT 6163
AA FLIGHT 6200
AA FLIGHT 6165.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
KINGDOM
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN LHR AIRPORT
AND NORTH AMERICA ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 180
DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 180 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT GBP 250.00 EACH
NONE IN CUBA
PERMITTED IN AREA 1/AREA 2.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
DIRECTION
NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
IN EACH DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADDONS PERMITTED
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER BA WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
WITHIN
-WITHIN NORTH AMERICA OR WITHIN UNITED KINGDOM
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/
IB IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/IB
IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
A SURCHARGE OF GBP 31.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE
FARE FOR PEAK TRAVEL.
PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHT 6149.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INE UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON.
NOTE -
SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - ORIGINATING LON -
A SURCHARGE OF GBP 100.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN
AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
AND - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN HAWAII ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN
VENEZUELA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN
VENEZUELA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION
OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB AND MAY NOT BE
SOLD IN VENEZUELA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA
2/AREA 3
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY AND MAY NOT BE
SOLD IN VENEZUELA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA
2/AREA 3
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
NOTE -
IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER
/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAILS.
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FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
-----
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
REFUNDABLE FARE
1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
-----
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
APPLY.
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL
BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE R
ETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFU
NDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID FOR
TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA ONLY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF NO-SHOW - REFUND/CHANGE IS NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
-----
WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E. ADVANCE
RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
-----
REISSUES/EXCHANGES NOT ALLOWED TO EOU/ERU FARE
TYPES.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
NONREFUNDABLE - AND - RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 25: Fare By Rule
ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM -
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS
APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS
APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Dougy_D
Morning All, how are prices LON > SYD historically in J? Remember a one-off with QATAR a few years back below Ł2,000 but not seen anything recently from them. For BA, don't see anything below Ł3k.

Targeting March 2020 so got time and would prefer near the Ł2k mark pp. Live in Jersey so already well positioned for Ex-EU.
CX ex-ARN are currently around 1900GBP for FEB-MAR2020.

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Old Apr 11, 2019, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
This fare has been pulled.
​​​​​​Hi. I know that fares get pulled all the time. Can I ask how you know specifically? As I say, this fare has been around for a Long LONG time and an increase of ~70% on a longstanding fare, in one go, seems really strange. Thanks.

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Old Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by northeastflyer
​​​​​​Hi. I know that fares get "pulled". Can I ask how you know specifically? As I say this approximate fare has been around for a Long LONG time. Thanks.
The fare no longer shows on ExpertFlyer. It was withdrawn within the last few weeks. Whether that's it or there is some intention for BA to file a new similar priced advanced purchase fare for AMS-BKK is anyones guess.
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by northeastflyer
​​​​​​Hi. I know that fares get "pulled". Can I ask how you know specifically? As I say this approximate fare has been around for a Long LONG time. Thanks.
Can't answer that question specifically but ARN-BKK on QR is Ł1200ish for most of the year.
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_ZA
Can't answer that question specifically but ARN-BKK on QR is Ł1200ish for most of the year.
Thanks for the info.
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by Dougy_D
Morning All, how are prices LON > SYD historically in J? Remember a one-off with QATAR a few years back below Ł2,000 but not seen anything recently from them. For BA, don't see anything below Ł3k.

Targeting March 2020 so got time and would prefer near the Ł2k mark pp. Live in Jersey so already well positioned for Ex-EU.
There have be a lot of EX EU fares in one world carriers at sub Ł2000 this year and I have no doubt more will follow. I simply could not countenance paying BA the sort of money they demand ex LHR for the shoddy product the provide.

One to watch is Turkish Airlines who are rumoured to be targeting SYD. This has been linked to their 787 service to DPS which is due to launch in July. That aircraft will have their new direct aisle access seat and they are in Star alliance. They readily status match to BA gold.
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Old Apr 11, 2019, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by binman


There have be a lot of EX EU fares in one world carriers at sub Ł2000 this year and I have no doubt more will follow. I simply could not countenance paying BA the sort of money they demand ex LHR for the shoddy product the provide.

One to watch is Turkish Airlines who are rumoured to be targeting SYD. This has been linked to their 787 service to DPS which is due to launch in July. That aircraft will have their new direct aisle access seat and they are in Star alliance. They readily status match to BA gold.
thankfully, as it makes the routes viable, there are plenary of people who don’t feel the product is shoddy nor complain about prices (which certainly aren’t an issue unique to BA not indeed LHR- but clearly people are prepared to pay these prices).

Having said that, more than happy to Ex-Europe to maximise my value at time confidence is less of a factor and thanks for the suggestion, but I’ll pass on your suggestion of TK.

Thankfully, all consumers are not the same and I certainly don’t think my opinion trumps anyone else’s, so do enjoy whichever airline most suits your needs and happy BA bashing in the meantime.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 12:01 am
  #310  
 
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Originally Posted by Globalist
Hi all,

Some quick advise too see if my assumptions are correct.
Home base is Singapore, generally WTP and CW fares are massively expensive, basically WTP equals the club fares you see ex EU.
I have plans to go to London, Barcelona and Amsterdam in July and looking to see the best way to price this.
I am flexible with the departure point, being SIN-KUL-BKK etc. Limited flexibility on dates. I have done the JHB-KUL-LHR sector before when it was nearly half the price compared to ex SIN. But today this is not the case.

Departure to LHR around July 19 (ideal)
To BCN from LHR July 23
BCN-AMS July 29
AMS-SIN August 2

In WTP I can source from the BA site:
SIN-LHR vv SGD 3000 (GBP 1690)
SIN-LHR-BCN and AMS-SIN for SGD 3500 (GBP 1975)
SIN-LHR-BCN, BCN-AMS, AMS-SIN SGD 4796 (GBP 2706)
BCN-AMS (via lhr) SGD 416 one way (GBP 234) (if I fly with KLM direct for cheaper I don't have the bag allowance)

I am a noob when it comes to checking outside of the BA site or Expedia type sites.. ITA Matrix etc I only know how to spell.

It is a personal trip, 2 pax, although the 2nd pax will fly back a week or so later.

Any thoughts, should I hold out for a sale?

Globalist

Found another better one starting from SIN on Vietnam Airlines, less than S$2.8K wide availability in July. lie-flat on SIN-SGN, SGN-LHR, LHR-HAN

https://www.google.com/flights?q=sgn...0*2.SGD.273870

lf you want oneworld, MH has fare from SGN to LHR, around S$2.9K, availability only near end of July.

https://www.google.com/flights?q=sgn...7*2.SGD.290367
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 2:40 am
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We appear to have strayed way off topic in recent days, I appreciate the intent is to do what FlyerTalk does best - to help fellow flyers - but perhaps we should remind ourselves of the guidance found in the OP:
  • Please try and limit side discussions to a minimum, as this thread seems to be a valuable resource for people looking for a good deal and we want to keep them easy to find.
  • Please focus on fares ex-UK or ex-EU
  • As this thread is meant for good deals that provide TPs on BAEC, please feel free to add exEU or exUK fares on BA, QR, IB, CX, AA or other OW partners to popular destinations.
There are many topics in other parts of FlyerTalk that might be more appropriate for some of the discussion above.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
We appear to have strayed way off topic in recent days, I appreciate the intent is to do what FlyerTalk does best - to help fellow flyers - but perhaps we should remind ourselves of the guidance found in the OP:
  • Please try and limit side discussions to a minimum, as this thread seems to be a valuable resource for people looking for a good deal and we want to keep them easy to find.
  • Please focus on fares ex-UK or ex-EU
  • As this thread is meant for good deals that provide TPs on BAEC, please feel free to add exEU or exUK fares on BA, QR, IB, CX, AA or other OW partners to popular destinations.
There are many topics in other parts of FlyerTalk that might be more appropriate for some of the discussion above.
In that vein, can anyone kindly help with my request below:

Looking to visit Dubai or Abu Dhabi for New Year- around Dec 28 - Jan 2. Any tips for cheapest flight, routing/ ex EU starting points?
thanks
J
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by jrc999
In that vein, can anyone kindly help with my request below:

Looking to visit Dubai or Abu Dhabi for New Year- around Dec 28 - Jan 2. Any tips for cheapest flight, routing/ ex EU starting points?
thanks
J
Royal Jordanian starting from Amsterdam (AMS-AMM-DXB) would probably be the cheapest Oneworld option at that time of year. In the good old days Qatar used to have some bargains on that route, but alas no more.
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by jrc999
In that vein, can anyone kindly help with my request below:

Looking to visit Dubai or Abu Dhabi for New Year- around Dec 28 - Jan 2. Any tips for cheapest flight, routing/ ex EU starting points?
thanks
J
If you leave a day later and return a day later you can do DXB for sub Ł900 in J from HEL. For just a shade more you can take Finnair’s A350 both ways.
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Old Apr 13, 2019, 3:32 am
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Hey all, can anyone help with the itinerary below? Looking for Business or Premium Economy, currently pricing way above 3k

9th Aug to SYD (London or ex EU)
22nd Aug SYD to IST

tks
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