Your guide to spending Avios | 2019 edition

Old Apr 23, 19, 7:19 am
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With the UR-->Avios transfer bonus, I remembered that BA may be a good use for my SYD-ZQN flight but I ALREADY BOOKED IT using AA. Even though I couldn't cancel I wanted to see how big a deal I missed out on. I used 50k AA + $181 to book in J, that would have cost 40k Avios + $181, so pretty close. Considering how I have many more AA than UR I'd call it a wash. Crisis averted hahaha
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Old Apr 23, 19, 7:33 am
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Not quite, I think....
Thanks very much! Forgot there was a separate 241 thread about this. Will read through there.
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Old Apr 23, 19, 12:53 pm
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I called into BA to get a quote for a few dates flying ORD-DUB on Aer Lingus next March. For two different days (first week of March, third week of March) I was quoted peak Avios pricing, which led to my questions:
1) Are off-peak rewards on IE metal booked through BA still available? (The third table above indicates they are not, but I have not read that anywhere. I thought it would've been front page blogger news had this happened.)
2) Where is the best/easiest place to find IE off-peak dates for March 2020?
3) Does IE availability enter BA's system at 355 days? If not, approximately how far in advance are IE flights available vi BA Avios?
Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
This is a good guide for EI avios bookings which I think addresses your questions https://www.headforpoints.com/2019/0...on-aer-lingus/
The link above indirectly answered my questions. Thank you.

For the curious here's what I discovered:
1) Off-peak BA awards on IE metal still exist. I believe my problem was is there's a non-Avios One World partner providing one of the segments the IE leg will always be charged the Peak fare.
2) avios.com
3) I am not seeing any IE availability on a few different routes after 29 Mar, 2020. That is 341 days from today.

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Old Apr 24, 19, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by 8tracks View Post
... IE metal ...
In case it may matter at some other stage, as in KARFA's post it really is "EI".
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Old Apr 24, 19, 10:34 am
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EI. Ugh. Once is an excusable typo. Repeats reveal my amateur status.
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Old Apr 24, 19, 12:33 pm
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HKG to LHR Seat bonanza

Following all the sage advice, stayed up late last night to try and secure 4 CW seats returning back from Hong Kong next Easter Sunday.

Dialled US Gold line to be put through to a very nice agent sat in Warrington (why can’t they open for UK card holders at that time?) with 10 mins to go.

Got the obligatory warning that 4 seats might be hard to come by but as 1am ticked over, 9, yes, 9 reward seats were released and agent nabbed 4 for me. Bit of payment and paperwork and was off the call by 1:10.

Pleased with outcome if only a bit tired and bemused that there’s still at least 4 reward seats available this evening meaning I didn’t need to stay up at all... oh well, right result and now time to start saving more Avios...
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Old Apr 24, 19, 2:12 pm
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Domestic connections no longer included
Has something changed - if I price up LHR-HKG its 90k Avios, but LHR-HKG-EDI is now 99k Avios (peak pricing, one way)
I'm sure domestic feeders used to be included in a long haul redemption?
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Old Apr 24, 19, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by andyedinburgh View Post
Domestic connections no longer included
Has something changed - if I price up LHR-HKG its 90k Avios, but LHR-HKG-EDI is now 99k Avios (peak pricing, one way)
I'm sure domestic feeders used to be included in a long haul redemption?
A glitch, apparently: BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
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Old Apr 27, 19, 12:41 pm
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Hi folks, have had a quick scroll through the earlier posts but can’t really find anything that hits the nail on the head.

I have an INV-LHR-LAS and return booked later on in the year, with a 7 hour layover in LHR - ideal for a T3 lounge crawl.

I’m booked in CW and there is reward availability LHR-LAS in First, if I understand correctly at 22500 Avios.

Doing dummy reward bookings for First / CW the taxes and fees element seems to be the same, does mean there is no cash difference to pay? If that is the case what should I expect the change fee to be? (Booked in Jan during the sale)

Grateful for any help and apologies if I’ve left any obvious details out.

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Old Apr 27, 19, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by EDIwanderer View Post
Doing dummy reward bookings for First / CW the taxes and fees element seems to be the same, does mean there is no cash difference to pay? If that is the case what should I expect the change fee to be?
I think that the real question is whether today's First TFC total is the same as the total TFC you paid back in January for the CW ticket. If there's a difference, that is what you should strictly speaking have to pay (or get refunded), because the ticket should be reissued which means a recalculation of TFC. I have a faint recollection of mentions here of occasions when this hasn't actually been collected.

The change fee should be £35 per person.
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Old Apr 27, 19, 1:00 pm
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Thanks for that! My previous transatlantic strips have been in lowest of the low buckets so unable to upgrade even to W.
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Old Apr 27, 19, 3:50 pm
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I did an UuA earlier this year to CW from WT+ (On a different route). They originally said that there was no difference in taxes and fees etc to upgrade so they just took the Avios. I then got a call 30 mins later saying “sorry we made a mistake and there actually are fees, it is €xx in total for the two of you” I can’t remember exactly how much but it was along the lines of £55 when converted from EUR.

it seems that there was no change fee incurred for me. I don’t know if this is always the cause when UuA?
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Old Apr 27, 19, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by wilsnunn View Post
I did an UuA earlier this year to CW from WT+ (On a different route). They originally said that there was no difference in taxes and fees etc to upgrade so they just took the Avios. I then got a call 30 mins later saying “sorry we made a mistake and there actually are fees, it is €xx in total for the two of you” I can’t remember exactly how much but it was along the lines of £55 when converted from EUR.

it seems that there was no change fee incurred for me. I don’t know if this is always the cause when UuA?
I suppose it depends on whether the underlying ticket was cash or Avios purchased?
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Old Apr 28, 19, 1:33 am
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Just to confirm, UuAs do not incur any change fee. It should purely be the difference of taxes/fees/charges between the two cabins.
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Old Apr 28, 19, 3:10 pm
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I suppose it depends on whether the underlying ticket was cash or Avios purchased?
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Just to confirm, UuAs do not incur any change fee. It should purely be the difference of taxes/fees/charges between the two cabins.
I think that it should all be pretty clear by now, but just in case not:

If you take a cash ticket and upgrade it using Avios, this is a UuA and no change fee is payable.

If you take an Avios ticket and change it to a higher cabin by paying more Avios, that is a change and a change fee is payable. For this reason, I usually try to discourage people from referring to this kind of transaction as an "upgrade", even though in some senses it is.
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