Sunday Times; 2019 exciting year for BA says Cruz
Dec 30, 2018, 7:05 pm
#16
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Going 10 across on a 777 is not aspiring either and as it rolls out at Heathrow, the fallout will be way more vocal.
Dec 30, 2018, 10:29 pm
#17
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Even bob-ers like SAS offer free tea coffee or water on the cheapest fares regardless of status.
So 2019 sees the finally welcome uturn. All totally predictable after bmi’s bob mess and then the U turn on seat res for status.
So what will BA f up in 2019 that other airlines have already messed up and reversed? - clearly some parts of BA management still have their inward looking world only and never check what has not worked on other airlines?
Dec 31, 2018, 1:59 am
#18
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The wine would be great, but I can't see how they do it without causing a row on every flight. Unless there was a really strong announcement at the start of the service, those who miss out will complain and take it out on the crew who already take the flack for BOB.
Dec 31, 2018, 2:05 am
#19
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They should basically return everything that they have taken away- im sure that pack of crisps they were giving us didnt cost them much either.
I never buy ANY of the BOB stuff and have never seen anyone else buy it. Its pretty pathetic really
I never buy ANY of the BOB stuff and have never seen anyone else buy it. Its pretty pathetic really
Dec 31, 2018, 3:02 am
#20
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How would the CC police someone trying to abuse this by borrowing someone’s plastic status card or having a screenshot of someone elses virtual card from the BA App on their phone?
Dec 31, 2018, 3:11 am
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The wine would be great, but I can't see how they do it without causing a row on every flight. Unless there was a really strong announcement at the start of the service, those who miss out will complain and take it out on the crew who already take the flack for BOB.
None of these carriers makes any announcement, and AA tends to be fairly indiscreet when they thank you for your loyalty.
Dec 31, 2018, 3:39 am
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As a OWE I was offered a newpaper pre-taxi, as well as a premium drink during the drinks run (CC encouraged me to have a champagne, and looked quite hurt when I declined
)I guess they must be used to us BA pax thinking the offer is a cunning plan to separate us from our hard earned cash!
Dec 31, 2018, 3:45 am
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My comment on others doing 10 across (in response to Rockflyertalk) is merely that BA has followed others once the fuss has died down over densification. I think there is a clear difference from 10 across introduced from the start (ie you know the config and buy accordingly) to a retrofit of existing aircraft. BA need to stand by the densification decision on their own - ie we want to make more money, cram more people in etc - not that cos others have done it - it makes it ok!
I agree the trade off of a new (smaller) seat and an improved screen may be worth it for some, but having done it (and witnessed densification from an Air Canada PE cabin on a 777-200LR 15 hour flight from YVR to SYD) where folk looked wedged in and miserable) is not for all.
What I do agree with is an increase in PE. On all of my flights to / from Toronto (bar one to LGW early in the summer) - PE has been full every time. Doubling PE is a bold move and appears to be a growth market. However, improved seats and product ie a second club meal, and genuine club entree's would turn it into a premium experience through the whole flight! I agree also with the mantra - if you want extra leg room, pay for an exit row or PE. It's why I pay a thousand bucks per round trip extra to fly PE (and maintain silver status admitedly) 3 or four times a year.
I agree the trade off of a new (smaller) seat and an improved screen may be worth it for some, but having done it (and witnessed densification from an Air Canada PE cabin on a 777-200LR 15 hour flight from YVR to SYD) where folk looked wedged in and miserable) is not for all.
What I do agree with is an increase in PE. On all of my flights to / from Toronto (bar one to LGW early in the summer) - PE has been full every time. Doubling PE is a bold move and appears to be a growth market. However, improved seats and product ie a second club meal, and genuine club entree's would turn it into a premium experience through the whole flight! I agree also with the mantra - if you want extra leg room, pay for an exit row or PE. It's why I pay a thousand bucks per round trip extra to fly PE (and maintain silver status admitedly) 3 or four times a year.
Dec 31, 2018, 3:46 am
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On my Finnair flight in economy last week, everyone gets a drink as mentioned above.
As a OWE I was offered a newpaper pre-taxi, as well as a premium drink during the drinks run (CC encouraged me to have a champagne, and looked quite hurt when I declined )
I guess they must be used to us BA pax thinking the offer is a cunning plan to separate us from our hard earned cash!
As a OWE I was offered a newpaper pre-taxi, as well as a premium drink during the drinks run (CC encouraged me to have a champagne, and looked quite hurt when I declined
)I guess they must be used to us BA pax thinking the offer is a cunning plan to separate us from our hard earned cash!
Dec 31, 2018, 4:11 am
#26
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The lady next to me took them up on their offer, and she had one of their J glasses to enjoy her champers.
Dec 31, 2018, 4:36 am
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