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TheChangingMan Dec 21, 18 2:26 am

Booking BA flights through Amex Travel
 
Hi all,

I have an offer on my Amex card to get 200 back if I spend >600 through Amex Travel.

I'm looking at booking BA flights to YVR for January travel. I normally book directly with BA; will I still get tier points etc booking through Amex? And will the booking be available in BA app for seat selection after booking.

Apologies if they are dumb questions!

Cheers

madfish Dec 21, 18 2:27 am

Yes to your questions.

TPs and avios as normal. You will also get a PNR that allows you to add your booking to BA.com and select seat etc. Usual status benefits apply.

TheChangingMan Dec 21, 18 2:32 am

Thanks! Button pressed and flights booked.

goldwannabe Dec 21, 18 2:51 am

Another question to tag on to this - does the free 24 hour cancellation period still apply if a BA flight is booked via Amex?

howbigmassive Dec 21, 18 3:10 am

AMEX travel booked flights, usually appear on your AMEX credit card as a separate transactions for each passenger. So a reservation booked for two people at a total cost of 700 usually posts as 2x 350 transactions to your credit card, however the discount will still be awarded after a few days.

Sometimes these offers specify 'in a single transaction', but it seems the latest ones don't include that.

UKTraveller4Fun Dec 21, 18 3:11 am

Hi,

I have a similar offer and was wondering can I book PE and use Avios to upgrade to Club? Or similarly book Club and Avios up to First?

Many thanks

corporate-wage-slave Dec 21, 18 3:17 am


Originally Posted by goldwannabe (Post 30560307)
Another question to tag on to this - does the free 24 hour cancellation period still apply if a BA flight is booked via Amex?

I don't believe it does (though if USA based there are regulatory issues involved there, so this answer applies to the UK Amex Travel). If you are going to use an online travel agency, Amex is one of the good guys, relatively speaking, but still there remains advantages in direct booking.


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 30560331)
I have a similar offer and was wondering can I book PE and use Avios to upgrade to Club? Or similarly book Club and Avios up to First?

I believe that Amex UK can do this, provided it is done at the time of purchase - whether it's part of the offer I know not.

UKTraveller4Fun Dec 21, 18 3:30 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 30560340)


I believe that Amex UK can do this, provided it is done at the time of purchase - whether it's part of the offer I know not.

Thanks, so I cannot book the ticket then upgrade it with avios via BA.com later only at time of purchase.

KARFA Dec 21, 18 4:20 am


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 30560340)
I don't believe it does (though if USA based there are regulatory issues involved there, so this answer applies to the UK Amex Travel). If you are going to use an online travel agency, Amex is one of the good guys, relatively speaking, but still there remains advantages in direct booking.

I believe that Amex UK can do this, provided it is done at the time of purchase - whether it's part of the offer I know not.


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 30560366)
Thanks, so I cannot book the ticket then upgrade it with avios via BA.com later only at time of purchase.

I think cws has confused UuA with GUFs - understandable considering the amount of time he has been helping people with the LGW thing over the last few days.

For a UuA (so upgrading with avios) a TA cannot do it at all since they have no access to your avios. You can make the booking with a TA and then, subject to there being reward space, you call BAEC to do the UuA.

There are also some other restrictions when UuA'ing a TA booking, this is the relevant section from the TP run thread.


Upgrading Using Avios (UuA) & Gold Upgrade Vouchers (GUF)
A quick note on doing UuAs is that you can do these for exEU itineraries (or you can apply a GUF if you have any). The following restrictions for UuAs apply though:

Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
  • BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers :td:
  • Tickets issued on non-BA stock :td:
The rules have previously said that the TA has to issue the ticket in the country of your BAEC membership as well. However, apparently this is not enforced consistently so hopefully this shouldn't be an issue. See these two posts for more information on that point https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29280847-post33.html & https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29282377-post38.html

A BA Holiday booking (flights & hotel) is UuA'able and treated as a TA booking, so a booking including non BA flights could not be UuA'ed. Also a BA Holiday booking which was made using a TA can not be UuA'ed.

Note that even if booked direct with BA on a 125-... ticket you can't UuA BA marketed and AA operated flight. The BA flight must be both BA marketed and operated.

There is more information on UuA'ing TA bookings here.

corporate-wage-slave Dec 21, 18 4:25 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 30560442)
For a UuA (so upgrading with avios) a TA cannot do it at all since they have no access to your avios. You can make the booking with a TA and then, subject to there being reward space, you call BAEC to do the UuA.

My apologies, indeed it was a GUF I was thinking of, UuA is very different and subject to the restrictions mentioned (which basically ensure that BA have full ownership of any issues) then UuA should be OK.

sunshinebob Dec 21, 18 4:51 am


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 30560331)
Hi,
I have a similar offer and was wondering can I book PE and use Avios to upgrade to Club? Or similarly book Club and Avios up to First?
Many thanks

Be aware that there has been many incidences where Amex ( and other OTA ) has previously booked the WT+ (PE) tickets into a non-upgradable fare bucket which will prevent you moving into club. If you are looking at the Amex offer then you have to buy online and as such may get caught out as you cant get verbal confirmation before you buy.

aceman Dec 21, 18 5:04 am

I would also point out that with amex online bookings, changing any dates can be an absolute nightmare. Emails go unanswered for days, and if you call in, the phone team has to call the online team which takes a long time....

Back to that offer, I last had it a couple of months ago, and split it into 3 separate transactions across 2 statement dates, and the 200 back posted with no problems. Funnily enough . just got it again, 200 off 600, but it arrived 3 days after I booked a load of travel...

KARFA Dec 21, 18 5:07 am


Originally Posted by sunshinebob (Post 30560498)
Be aware that there has been many incidences where Amex ( and other OTA ) has previously booked the WT+ (PE) tickets into a non-upgradable fare bucket which will prevent you moving into club. If you are looking at the Amex offer then you have to buy online and as such may get caught out as you cant get verbal confirmation before you buy.

I thought all WTP fare buckets (W,E,T) are upgradable with avios? Do you have anymore detail on this?

TheChangingMan Dec 21, 18 5:58 am

The WT+ that I booked today is in "T".

fruitcage Dec 21, 18 10:30 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 30560522)
I thought all WTP fare buckets (W,E,T) are upgradable with avios? Do you have anymore detail on this?

Pretty sure that's true when booked direct with BA. Booking thru a TA introduces additional complications and conditions for UuA, and I wonder whether any of these depend on the fare bucket? Like you I am interested to hear more details.


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