Adding a booking to two existing bookings
Dec 16, 2018, 7:00 am
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Adding a booking to two existing bookings
Apologies if this is a little complicated. I have:
However, certainly for the LHR->NYC->SFO bit on the Monday, I'd prefer to be on the same ticket. There's a convenient 18:30 out of JFK direct to SFO, and given my LHR->SFO arrives at 16:10, even with hand baggage only and Global Entry I'm not sure I want to do that on two tickets with a T7->T8 terminal change. So I'm wondering whether I might be better changing my flight to JFK to go ZRH->LHR->JFK->SFO (i.e. keeping JFK in there for the TP), possibly adding on the SFO->JFK flight on the Thursday / Fri AM as well. Am I likely to be able to do this more economically? I'm also (TP hungry) considering upgrading LHR->JFK to F (though that's normally far cheaper by AUP) if that helps.
Just to repeat: no checked bags.
(*) I will from now on refer to BA as "Air Bagpus"
- an outbound flown NYC->ZRH return, with the return flight from ZRH to JFK via LHR in CW on Mon 28 Jan 2019, booked in J (ZRH->LHR) and D (LHR->JFK) endorsed "Pax 051130/l/ggairbagpus -bg:ba" (*)
- another return NYC->ZRH, with the outbound NYC to ZRH via LHR in CW on Fri 01 Feb 2019, booked in I (JFK->LHR) and J (LHR->ZRH) endorsed "Pax nonref/restrictions apply -bg:ba", with a return on Mon 24 Jun booked in J (ZRH->LHR) and I (LHR->JFK)
However, certainly for the LHR->NYC->SFO bit on the Monday, I'd prefer to be on the same ticket. There's a convenient 18:30 out of JFK direct to SFO, and given my LHR->SFO arrives at 16:10, even with hand baggage only and Global Entry I'm not sure I want to do that on two tickets with a T7->T8 terminal change. So I'm wondering whether I might be better changing my flight to JFK to go ZRH->LHR->JFK->SFO (i.e. keeping JFK in there for the TP), possibly adding on the SFO->JFK flight on the Thursday / Fri AM as well. Am I likely to be able to do this more economically? I'm also (TP hungry) considering upgrading LHR->JFK to F (though that's normally far cheaper by AUP) if that helps.
Just to repeat: no checked bags.
(*) I will from now on refer to BA as "Air Bagpus"
Last edited by abligh; Dec 16, 2018 at 7:09 am
Dec 16, 2018, 7:56 am
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To answer your broader question, the answer is "no". As to the specific, the answer is that it doesn't matter. You will be protected in any event.
First, "bookings" are irrelevant. It is tickets that matter or to be precise, e-tickets. While multiple tickets may be issued into a single PNR, tickets cannot be added to a PNR (other than in extraordinarily limited circumstances such as an infant). But, it would not matter if they were.
Second, AA unlike almost all carriers, protects on OW-AA transfers between tickets so long as the MCT is met had the transfer been booked as a connection. In your case, your transfer time at JFK is above MCT. Thus, if you are delayed into JFK or problems occur at CBP, you would speak with an AA agent at JFK (this is all handled at the airport). It is best to have a printed copy of your BA e-ticket receipt for the agent, but it can be located electronically in a pinch. This is contrary to the general convention that the late delivering carrier, e.g. BA has the responsibility to rebook.
Do note that your rebooking will not be covered under EC 261/2004. Thus, if you are stuck at JFK overnight, the hotel is your responsibility and you will not be due any delay compensation based on arrival time at SFO (arrival time will be measured at JFK).
With that minor risk, e.g. picking up a cheap airport motel in the limited circumstance of a delay causing an overnight, there is no reason to fret about booking separate tickets.
First, "bookings" are irrelevant. It is tickets that matter or to be precise, e-tickets. While multiple tickets may be issued into a single PNR, tickets cannot be added to a PNR (other than in extraordinarily limited circumstances such as an infant). But, it would not matter if they were.
Second, AA unlike almost all carriers, protects on OW-AA transfers between tickets so long as the MCT is met had the transfer been booked as a connection. In your case, your transfer time at JFK is above MCT. Thus, if you are delayed into JFK or problems occur at CBP, you would speak with an AA agent at JFK (this is all handled at the airport). It is best to have a printed copy of your BA e-ticket receipt for the agent, but it can be located electronically in a pinch. This is contrary to the general convention that the late delivering carrier, e.g. BA has the responsibility to rebook.
Do note that your rebooking will not be covered under EC 261/2004. Thus, if you are stuck at JFK overnight, the hotel is your responsibility and you will not be due any delay compensation based on arrival time at SFO (arrival time will be measured at JFK).
With that minor risk, e.g. picking up a cheap airport motel in the limited circumstance of a delay causing an overnight, there is no reason to fret about booking separate tickets.
Dec 16, 2018, 8:00 am
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To answer your broader question, the answer is "no". As to the specific, the answer is that it doesn't matter. You will be protected in any event.
First, "bookings" are irrelevant. It is tickets that matter or to be precise, e-tickets. While multiple tickets may be issued into a single PNR, tickets cannot be added to a PNR (other than in extraordinarily limited circumstances such as an infant). But, it would not matter if they were.
Second, AA unlike almost all carriers, protects on OW-AA transfers between tickets so long as the MCT is met had the transfer been booked as a connection. In your case, your transfer time at JFK is above MCT. Thus, if you are delayed into JFK or problems occur at CBP, you would speak with an AA agent at JFK (this is all handled at the airport). It is best to have a printed copy of your BA e-ticket receipt for the agent, but it can be located electronically in a pinch. This is contrary to the general convention that the late delivering carrier, e.g. BA has the responsibility to rebook.
Do note that your rebooking will not be covered under EC 261/2004. Thus, if you are stuck at JFK overnight, the hotel is your responsibility and you will not be due any delay compensation based on arrival time at SFO (arrival time will be measured at JFK).
With that minor risk, e.g. picking up a cheap airport motel in the limited circumstance of a delay causing an overnight, there is no reason to fret about booking separate tickets.
First, "bookings" are irrelevant. It is tickets that matter or to be precise, e-tickets. While multiple tickets may be issued into a single PNR, tickets cannot be added to a PNR (other than in extraordinarily limited circumstances such as an infant). But, it would not matter if they were.
Second, AA unlike almost all carriers, protects on OW-AA transfers between tickets so long as the MCT is met had the transfer been booked as a connection. In your case, your transfer time at JFK is above MCT. Thus, if you are delayed into JFK or problems occur at CBP, you would speak with an AA agent at JFK (this is all handled at the airport). It is best to have a printed copy of your BA e-ticket receipt for the agent, but it can be located electronically in a pinch. This is contrary to the general convention that the late delivering carrier, e.g. BA has the responsibility to rebook.
Do note that your rebooking will not be covered under EC 261/2004. Thus, if you are stuck at JFK overnight, the hotel is your responsibility and you will not be due any delay compensation based on arrival time at SFO (arrival time will be measured at JFK).
With that minor risk, e.g. picking up a cheap airport motel in the limited circumstance of a delay causing an overnight, there is no reason to fret about booking separate tickets.
Dec 16, 2018, 1:48 pm
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You may change your existing ticket depending on its existing fare rules. Without reading those rules in detail, it is impossible to say whether it makes sense. But, the sole reason to do this is if it is cheaper than keeping what you have now and simply purchasing a new AA domestic ticket.
Dec 16, 2018, 2:51 pm
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You may change your existing ticket depending on its existing fare rules. Without reading those rules in detail, it is impossible to say whether it makes sense. But, the sole reason to do this is if it is cheaper than keeping what you have now and simply purchasing a new AA domestic ticket.
Dec 16, 2018, 3:28 pm
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Easiest to simply call BA and ask for a price on what you want to do. It is highly unlikely to be cheaper than the roughly Ł1,600 ($2,000) for which you may purchase a round-trip JFK-SFO in F