BA removes A class on the BOS and DXB routes
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My existing DXB (TA with GUF) booking has just gone from A to F. MMB highlights it in red with changes, but nothing else has changed.
MMB in .com shows the increased F avios rather than A, but whether that will stick who knows.
MMB in .com shows the increased F avios rather than A, but whether that will stick who knows.
Last edited by rjn21; Dec 10, 2018 at 8:13 am
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Based on a query in another post, I’ve just checked the app. Showing absolutely no reward space in any cabin to BOS/DBX for the whole of next year. I assume this is somehow connected, even if not deliberate.
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Using AA.com to search for January BA award inventory, I see plenty BOS-LHR-BOS availability.
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Could be that they just haven't got to the task of loading it yet.
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Without necessarily agreeing with the post you were responding to, I'd be surprised if BA didn't think about the impact of this change on the AONEx product. It's certainly possible, but I'd be surprised. Also, I'd be surprised if the OneWorld agreements allow a member to simply opt-out of one of the OneWorld products. Again, I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised.
I can't. Clearly user error. (And in verifying that it was user error, I see that TYO is a good place to start an AONEx itinerary. Anything cheaper nowadays?)
I can't. Clearly user error. (And in verifying that it was user error, I see that TYO is a good place to start an AONEx itinerary. Anything cheaper nowadays?)
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American Airlines has made the following change to their booking codes table for all A- fares, including the AONEx series:
This requires the use of F class on LON-DXB and LON-BOS.
[snipped other exceptions]
Iberia, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas have done likewise. I haven't checked anyone else.
BA has injected some wording about requiring A class (which seems superfluous as there is no exception to require F class yet):
(In fact, BA's change here is not advantageous as it disallows the use of D, E, L and Y classes would normally be allowed if the A bucket was full.)
So everyone except BA has their house in order.
Code:
>$LB14/BA 014 LONLON 16DEC18 AA GBP 9595.00 AONE3 STAY---/12MBK-A FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES -------- ---------------------- ---------- AONE3 FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD FARES A AONE3 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES AONE3 FOR ADULT BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER: BA VIA BA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS 4130-4149 VIA BA NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS 4550-4579 IF VIA AA A- FARES VIA BA F REQUIRED BETWEEN LON-DXB IF VIA AA A- FARES VIA BA F REQUIRED BETWEEN LON-BOS
[snipped other exceptions]
Iberia, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas have done likewise. I haven't checked anyone else.
BA has injected some wording about requiring A class (which seems superfluous as there is no exception to require F class yet):
Code:
>$LB14 014 LONLON 16DEC18 BA GBP 9595.00 AONE3 STAY---/12MBK-A FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES -------- ---------------------- ---------- AONE3 FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD FARES A AONE3 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS VIA BA A REQUIRED A- FARES BETWEEN LON-DXB 13DEC18-18DEC18 VIA BA A REQUIRED A- FARES BETWEEN LON-BOS 13DEC18-18DEC18
So everyone except BA has their house in order.
Last edited by Calchas; Dec 16, 2018 at 3:26 am
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Time to burn those GUFS?
Surprised there isn't a more intense debate. There was a brief thread a few weeks back.
It would appear BA are testing how to devalue GUFS. A class is gone from DXB and BOS. F and Z is there. GUFS seem to book into Z.
Result: GUFs would be brutally devalued + now using the same inventory as Avios redemptions. If this goes systemwide it would be one of the harshest enhancements of BAEC ever, and really bad news for anyone wanting to redeem into F.
It would appear BA are testing how to devalue GUFS. A class is gone from DXB and BOS. F and Z is there. GUFS seem to book into Z.
Result: GUFs would be brutally devalued + now using the same inventory as Avios redemptions. If this goes systemwide it would be one of the harshest enhancements of BAEC ever, and really bad news for anyone wanting to redeem into F.
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This has already been discussed. In the scheme of things it only affects a small amount of people.
BA removes A class on the BOS and DXB routes
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GUFs have always booked into Z (which is Avios availability bucket).
The exception is booking via a TA, where they can use the lowest revenue bucket.
At this point, the lowest revenue bucket on those flights is F - as A no longer exists. This would increase GUF value as they could pretty much on any seat in the F cabin.
In reality until we get feedback from TAs trying to do this in the real world we won't know for sure.
The exception is booking via a TA, where they can use the lowest revenue bucket.
At this point, the lowest revenue bucket on those flights is F - as A no longer exists. This would increase GUF value as they could pretty much on any seat in the F cabin.
In reality until we get feedback from TAs trying to do this in the real world we won't know for sure.
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GUFs have always booked into Z (which is Avios availability bucket).
The exception is booking via a TA, where they can use the lowest revenue bucket.
At this point, the lowest revenue bucket on those flights is F - as A no longer exists. This would increase GUF value as they could pretty much on any seat in the F cabin.
In reality until we get feedback from TAs trying to do this in the real world we won't know for sure.
The exception is booking via a TA, where they can use the lowest revenue bucket.
At this point, the lowest revenue bucket on those flights is F - as A no longer exists. This would increase GUF value as they could pretty much on any seat in the F cabin.
In reality until we get feedback from TAs trying to do this in the real world we won't know for sure.
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Previously TAs booked into A because thats all that was available to them. BA have now started publishing Z availability via the GDS for the routes where A has been removed, therefore it would appear that the new procedure is going to be that TAs book into Z award availability just like BA do. Petrus' scenario is the much more likely outcome of this than TAs booking into F.
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They haven't removed discounted F fares, the fares are still there and the same as before, they just book into F class now instead of A.