48 in CE - good idea?!
#76
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Just got off of the LHR HEL flight in full (48) CE cabin. Kelly (CSM) and her crew did a fantastic job, especially as she wasn’t due to be on this flight! Brilliant crew, plenty of fizz and pretty good food even though they did run out of Glenlivet 👎
Definitely worth a Thank You on BA.com
Definitely worth a Thank You on BA.com
#77
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BA906 (LHR-FRA) was 11 rows of CE this morning, along with a fairly speedy 1:07 flight time. I was (happily) ensconced in 1A, but even then didn’t receive a meal until 35 mins into the flight. Unsurprisingly, the unfortunate folks in row 11 didn’t get any food until the 10 mins to landing announcement - hardly a premium experience for them!
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This is why it can be a good idea to take your own food on s/hauls : you get to eat when you want.
#81
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They got to me just as the captain was doing his 10 minutes to landing announcement (we held for a bit, so it was more like 20 minutes in the end).
I asked for a wine, which the stewardess put in a plastic cup. I just had my first sip and she tapped me on the shoulder and gave me another bottle Even I couldn't get through 2 mini bottles in that time.
God knows how people managed to eat their meal!
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Another take on this in one of the blogs including an interesting timeline.
https://www.turningleftforless.com/i...europe-review/
https://www.turningleftforless.com/i...europe-review/
#86
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Another take on this in one of the blogs including an interesting timeline.
https://www.turningleftforless.com/i...europe-review/
https://www.turningleftforless.com/i...europe-review/
#87
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An interesting alternative view, flying back from HEL on Finnair on Boxing Day night.
A full aircraft (A320), but only one row of business. Either Finnair don't go in for cheap upgrades or they decided to sell out the flight with Economy pax.
A full aircraft (A320), but only one row of business. Either Finnair don't go in for cheap upgrades or they decided to sell out the flight with Economy pax.
#89
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A good article with the detailed timeline, but the suggested solutions have not been thought through. It is easy to suggest that more cabin crew should work in CE on flights with such high loads, but how are such low fares supposed to pay their wages? Moreover, I don’t even think that there is space on single aisle aircraft for them to work. I flew from KBP a week ago n CE (10 rows in total) and was wondering what would the additional cabin crew do there. There were 3 working in CE, the CSM was not ‘hiding’ in the galley but rather plating meals and preparing drinks, while the other two were running back and forth delivering the service.
The solution is simply to restrict the number of rows and raise fares; however, since passsengers keep coming back we can figure out where their preferences lie.
Also, AY does not use A350 on that route - it is A330 now, and it is only one flight a day.
The solution is simply to restrict the number of rows and raise fares; however, since passsengers keep coming back we can figure out where their preferences lie.
Also, AY does not use A350 on that route - it is A330 now, and it is only one flight a day.
#90
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When CE is so popular it does make me question whether there is a business case for a real premium short/mid haul business/first class product like elsewhere in the world. I.e the big recliner seats etc. I can see the bean counters reason for not when enough people are silly enough to pay for CE.