BA refuses boarding back to UK despite OK from Immigration Authorities
Nov 27, 2018, 3:05 pm
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In which case it sounds like BA is liable to pay this fine for the LHR-OTP leg?
Nov 27, 2018, 3:14 pm
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Nov 27, 2018, 3:16 pm
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Agree it’s for the Hungarians to impose, but if redrobs post is correct then the fact they allowed OP admission is irrelevant?
Nov 27, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Feel bad but only so much
Add me to the list of folks who feel bad for the OP but feel he is blaming everybody but himself. Sorry buddy but you flew with expired documents. In the end you have nobody to blame but yourself.
Nov 27, 2018, 7:00 pm
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I assume it means BUD rather than OTP?
Nov 27, 2018, 7:12 pm
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Nov 27, 2018, 7:21 pm
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Nov 27, 2018, 7:32 pm
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I can’t help it if the OP has no idea where he is
Nov 27, 2018, 7:42 pm
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Is it simply a matter of confusion somewhere up-thread, or is the OP actually in Bucharest, rather than Budapest?
Nov 27, 2018, 8:23 pm
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Totally agree no matter what the trip holiday or business, short haul or long haul so long as I have my passport and. credit cards I figure I can always get what I need when I arrive. I have a feeling that one day I might forget the luggage and put this theory to the test but I'm sure my better half will be looking over my shoulder.
As to this thread the OP seems to be unable to accept that BA did what they consider to be correct the fact that they took him there is completely irrelevant and he needs to forget that and concentrate on getting his act together and getting home, of course he could ask his wife to join him for a break he sounds as though he needs it
As to this thread the OP seems to be unable to accept that BA did what they consider to be correct the fact that they took him there is completely irrelevant and he needs to forget that and concentrate on getting his act together and getting home, of course he could ask his wife to join him for a break he sounds as though he needs it
Nov 28, 2018, 12:12 am
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BA did, and no authorization was given. What else is there to discuss?
Except that there is such a list.
That the list promulgated by the UK government contravenes the EU law is not the airline's fault. Airlines do not accept passengers for travel based on the advice of an airlines forum.
Not to let someone into a country would be contrary to the Directives. Not to accept someone for travel because they are lacking a valid document required by the destination country would not. Let's not confuse what happens at the gate with what happens at the border. What a person can establish at the border (as to their identity) is very different with what a person can establish at the gate. These Directives are not for airlines to implement. No airline can disregard the requirements of national governments as to who should be carried to their borders. If you think these requirements are wrong, take it up with the governments rather than the airlines.
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Nov 28, 2018, 1:25 am
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However since you know moeve's list exists then do share the link with us as it is relevant to OP's case: surely no-one would travel using an expired ID to a country appearing on a published list as not accepting expired IDs.
Nov 28, 2018, 1:45 am
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Not need to get personal. It does not advance the discussion. It is not about BA as the requirements are the same for all airlines.
If you open TIMATIC you will see the list of documents that airlines can accept for travel.
I can see though that you are continuing a discussion, that is completely unrelated to airlines, about which documents governments must accept and who they must allow into their countries. The UK government, for example, is very open about the fact that documents must be valid and makes no mention of expired documents at all.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control...ave-for-the-uk
If you open TIMATIC you will see the list of documents that airlines can accept for travel.
I can see though that you are continuing a discussion, that is completely unrelated to airlines, about which documents governments must accept and who they must allow into their countries. The UK government, for example, is very open about the fact that documents must be valid and makes no mention of expired documents at all.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control...ave-for-the-uk
Nov 28, 2018, 2:01 am
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Not need to get personal. It does not advance the discussion. It is not about BA as the requirements are the same for all airlines.
If you open TIMATIC you will see the list of documents that airlines can accept for travel.
I can see though that you are continuing a discussion, that is completely unrelated to airlines, about which documents governments must accept and who they must allow into their countries. The UK government, for example, is very open about the fact that documents must be valid and makes no mention of expired documents at all.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control...ave-for-the-uk
If you open TIMATIC you will see the list of documents that airlines can accept for travel.
I can see though that you are continuing a discussion, that is completely unrelated to airlines, about which documents governments must accept and who they must allow into their countries. The UK government, for example, is very open about the fact that documents must be valid and makes no mention of expired documents at all.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control...ave-for-the-uk
I am talking specifically about a list of countries which no longer accept expired EU ID cards which moeve referred to (with Hungary on it) and you confirm exists.
When the OP presented himself at the Hungarian border with his expired EU ID card I am quite sure the Hungarian official did not rely on TIMATIC, or an airline list, or some UK government guidance.
Until then I maintain there is no such list, evidenced by the fact that consistent with EC directives the OP was able to enter Hungary by corroborating his status via other means (emailed passport copy). That is entirely relevant to the OP as having landed himself in Hungary after a BA flight he was unable to return to UK on his BA return flight.
At no stage have I attributed reponsibility to BA although one assumes by allowing travel to Budapest they were satisfied the OP could be landed in Hungary with an expired ID card.