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The babybus (Sweden<> East Coast) Fare meetup thread
There seem to be a couple of groups coalescing around the ex Sweden fares to the east coast. One with the BA1 leg on the 5th June, and another on the 2nd August, both Fridays. It seems there are 5 seats already taken on the 2nd, which include myself and another FTer. Anyone else, make yourself known. It's not that easy to get to the East coast for a grand in CW, so can potentially be used as the basis for an actual stay (perish the thought!).
My routing is as below, I'll set up a wiki too.. I couldn't squeeze out the full 680 TPs which are theoretically available, seems I hit some limit or other as the pricing is trebled after you press the "pay" button. If you're playing with the fare, it will price via bookwithmatrix all the way through into the AA website, but there is a reprice at the last moment. The way of knowing whether this will happen or not is to look at whether there is a flight network price on the first page of bookwithmatrix. If there is a price, AA will be OK. If not, the fare will be repriced. As of just now (when I checked) this routing was pricing OK. My routing avoids overnighting in New York which is a little expensive, and it gets me onto the top deck of a 747 on the way back, which I've never done so looking forward to that. You can start in GOT (or open jaw between GOT and ARN I think) and can also route back through PHL or BOS. I think you can get both HEL shuffles plus a maximum of three internal US flights, that seemed to be the limit I hit. In principle you can take a standard LHR flight over instead of the babybus which might give you more options (some possibility the Shannon hop is confusing the transfer limit calculation on the babybus). https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2832f1cbc5.jpg |
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[Sorry can't put this into wiki myself]
Same routing with a couple of minor changes - starting/ending at GOT and a later TATL then A350 to HEL (CX shower/lounge time) Aug 1st
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Is there any way to route back JFK-LCY on BA002?
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Originally Posted by CharlesTheTog
(Post 30448064)
Is there any way to route back JFK-LCY on BA002?
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It looks like some of the fare inventory has already gone... but the sale fare is still doable albeit with a forced overnight in Sweden at the start, and a slightly later hop from Orlando to Miami.
Oh so tempted though! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3ead3dbb42.jpg |
Forced overnight can be in the Jumbo hotel at ARN. That's where I'll be, albeit with the family, in the cockpit suite, so keep the noise down please.
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Originally Posted by bisonrav
(Post 30448138)
Forced overnight can be in the Jumbo hotel at ARN. That's where I'll be, albeit with the family, in the cockpit suite, so keep the noise down please.
Probably a question to take off-board but how/where could I book this (I can see a struggle to pay it all in one go but I can't price it up on ba.com and convert it to a +hotel booking as one of the AA flights doesn't appear there) |
Used BookWithMatrix onto AA.com
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Well considering I am actually based in ARN, and don't mind going to MIA next year I might just have to jump on this one!
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What are the fare rules? |
Fare rules & restrictions
American (AA) ILN2T8S6 STO to MIA General notes BASIC SEASON BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES I APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES FOR ADULT Category 3: Seasonal restrictions PERMITTED 27JUN THROUGH 04SEP OR 18NOV THROUGH 22NOV OR 22DEC THROUGH 01JAN OR 15APR THROUGH 26APR FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. Category 4: Flight restrictions THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3 ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY OA ANY OA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OA ANY OA FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3 ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY NI ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2L ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY A5 ANY OK FLIGHT OPERATED BY OK. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY I2 ANY 4T FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB. Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS. Category 6: Minimum stay requirements TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND OR - TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND. Category 7: Maximum stay requirements TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. Category 8: Stopover restrictions STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. Category 9: Transfer restrictions 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/ SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. Category 10: Combinability END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/IB IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/IB IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. Category 12: Surcharges IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - INE UNDER 02. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF. AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - YR FEE MAY APPLY OTHERWISE AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES - A SURCHARGE OF USD 553.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS. Category 15: Sales restrictions TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31DEC 18. Category 15: Sales restrictions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ategory 16: Penalties CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED. VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL ---- WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE ----------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE FARE 1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY 2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED ----------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ----------------------------------------------- FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR RESERVATION CHANGE ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE. Category 17: HIP exceptions THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. Category 18: Endorsements THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREFUNDABLE - AND - RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. Category 19: Discounts ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE. Category 20: Tour Discounts NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS. Category 21: Agent Discounts NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS. Category 22: Other Discounts THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT. NOTE - APPLICATION--- FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS. SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT. NOTE - RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Category 31: Voluntary changes IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT- CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. Category 33: Voluntary cancellations REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16 Category 50: Application FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM EUROPE TO THE UNITED STATES. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENCE. FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL. |
American (AA) ILN2T8S6 MIA to STO
General notes BASIC SEASON BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES I APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES FOR ADULT Category 3: Seasonal restrictions PERMITTED 27JUN THROUGH 04SEP OR 18NOV THROUGH 22NOV OR 22DEC THROUGH 01JAN OR 15APR THROUGH 26APR FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. Category 4: Flight restrictions THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3 ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY OA ANY OA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OA ANY OA FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3 ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY NI ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2L ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY A5 ANY OK FLIGHT OPERATED BY OK. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897 LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY I2 ANY 4T FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB. Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS. Category 6: Minimum stay requirements TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND OR - TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND. Category 7: Maximum stay requirements TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. Category 8: Stopover restrictions STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. Category 9: Transfer restrictions 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION 2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/ SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. Category 10: Combinability END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/IB IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/AY/BA/IB IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. Category 12: Surcharges IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. OR - INE UNDER 02. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF. AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. NOTE - YR FEE MAY APPLY OTHERWISE AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO. AND - ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES - A SURCHARGE OF USD 553.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS. Category 15: Sales restrictions TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31DEC 18. Category 15: Sales restrictions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ategory 16: Penalties CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/ THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED. VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL ---- WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE ----------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE FARE 1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY 2.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED ----------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ----------------------------------------------- FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR RESERVATION CHANGE ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE. Category 17: HIP exceptions THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. Category 18: Endorsements THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREFUNDABLE - AND - RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. Category 19: Discounts ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. 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Originally Posted by awoxp
(Post 30448173)
Used BookWithMatrix onto AA.com
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Originally Posted by vintagepilot
(Post 30448737)
Maybe a basic lack of understanding but, if I take the book with AA option, I get to a card payment page that wants a US address. If I change location to UK it dumps the trip. Is there a way round that?
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OK, thanks, I'll give that a go - I might be tempted to join you!!
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ARN-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK-LAX-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-ARN seems to price up at £1600 - but the £/TP is not as good as the East Coast version
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Let's FILL that babybus…!
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What's your routing? Got that if you have too many transfers.
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Exactly the same routing as @bisonrav posted - I reverted to his one, but it only quoted the fare change when I went to put my cc info in and pay - UK credit card but putting the billing address as per his advice.
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Looks like this will price up still
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4264b9c323.png |
Update... After a lot of prodding, I have got the bulk of it to book, although on the earlier MCO - MIA flight at 06:35.
Will add details to the Wiki once I get confirmation email from AA. What have I put myself in for!?!! |
Trying to avoid the long layover in JFK on the return - or is there some good reason to spend time there?
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Originally Posted by vintagepilot
(Post 30449453)
Trying to avoid the long layover in JFK on the return - or is there some good reason to spend time there?
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Well, have picked a few seats on the AA domestic legs, and the booking seems to be choosing me what it thinks I want on the other legs... Any advice for a first time LH flyer?
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For the BA legs, use BA MMB. Put the AA Record Locator into the Qantas (yes) MMB and a little bit down the page it will give you a PNR which you can use elsewhere. You may also find the booking pops up there anyway.
Finnair you'll probably need the online chat. |
It's now appeared in my app, although the first Finnair flight is missing from the booking on Qantas and BA, but is showing on AA.
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Tweet AA - my original booking had 3 different references. Plug them into AA/BA/FY and each will have a different set of flights you can pick seats on.
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Originally Posted by awoxp
(Post 30449697)
Tweet AA - my original booking had 3 different references. Plug them into AA/BA/FY and each will have a different set of flights you can pick seats on.
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Ok, I've made this work:
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...451ed6d777.jpg I'm getting the same problem, both AY and BA show the booking starting at HEL with ARN-HEL missing although it all shows up on AA. (sorted - see below) - and tweaked in an extra sector on the way back. |
OK, so what you need to do is to go onto Finnair live chat, give them the AA record locator and explain you need to select seats on the Finnair flights. They'll give you another PNR you can use to select seats on Finnair, that will also allow you to see the whole itinerary on BA.COM if you want to. I had to reenter my personal details onto the Finnair PNR including BAEC number. Curiously it allowed me to select a seat on the BA HEL->LHR leg which I couldn't on the Qantas PNR (but I could select the babybus and 747 seats).
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Some of these prices are crazy low! Wow!
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Originally Posted by bisonrav
(Post 30449942)
OK, so what you need to do is to go onto Finnair live chat, give them the AA record locator......
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Same situation with me. So, I now have an AA PNR, a BA PNR and an AY PNR.
@bisonrav have you been able to book a seat on AY808? I've got it to come up under the AY PNR but the page stalls when trying to bring up the seat map. |
Add your frequent flyer details to the AY PNR. Then you can select from the 4 available seats... for some reason the BAEC number isn't carried through |
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Poop - BA176 on 4 Aug has just been switched to a 777 - presumably it could all change again.
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Was planning on doing this early August anyway so I've jumped on and booked myself on that same Babybus flight.
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
(Post 30505457)
Was planning on doing this early August anyway so I've jumped on and booked myself on that same Babybus flight.
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