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Jul 31st
1320 BA780 LHR>ARN mtikky
1700 BA782 LHR>ARN vintagepilot, squawk
20:05 BA786 LHR>ARN bisonrav,Wozza2404

Aug 1st
0705 BA776 LHR>ARN IFE Wizard
1255 AY808 ARN>HEL bisonrav, mtikky, Wozza2404, squawk
1300 AY864 GOT>HEL awoxp, gosha
1315 AY804 ARN>HEL IFE Wizard
1435 AY810 ARN>HEL vintagepilot
1600 AY1337 HEL>LHR bisonrav, mtikky, Wozza2404, squawk
1635 AY814 ARN->HEL tsmnc, Selador
1700 AY1341 HEL>LHR awoxp, IFE Wizard, gosha
1930 AY1339 HEL>LHR tsmnc,vintagepilot, Selador

Aug 2nd
1240 BA1 LCY>JFK awoxp, bisonrav, IFE Wizard, vintagepilot, mtikky, Wozza2404, KARFA, tsmnc, gosha, squawk, Selador
1900 AA2246 JFK>CLT IFE Wizard
2040 AA2272 JFK>AUS awoxp, bisonrav, mtikky, gosha
2232 AA2092 CLT>MCO IFE Wizard

Aug 3rd
0630 BA4362 JFK>MIA tsmnc
0635 AA1479 MCO>MIA IFE Wizard
0842 AA1176 AUS>DFW bisonrav, awoxp, mtikky, gosha
1000 AA2136 LGA>BOS KARFA
1105 AA1571 JFK>MIA Wozza2404
1219 AA388 JFK>CLT vintagepilot
1253 AA2314 DFW>MCO awoxp, bisonrav, mtikky, gosha
1259 AA291 JFK>MIA Selador, squawk
1409 AA1609 CLT>MIA vintagepilot
1937 AA1194 MCO>MIA awoxp, bisonrav, mtikky, gosha

Aug 4th
0700 AA1571 MIA>JFK awoxp, gosha
0831 AA2199 MIA>CLT vintagepilot
0849 AA291 MIA>JFK bisonrav, mtikky
1224 AA1002 CLT>JFK vintagepilot
17:05 BA206 MIA>LHR Wozza2404
1830 BA112 JFK>LHR bisonrav, mtikky, vintagepilot
1900 BA174 JFK>LHR awoxp, gosha
1925 BA212 BOS>LHR KARFA

Aug 5th
06.50 AA1495 MIA>ORD IFE Wizard
0815 BA1340 LHR>LBA KARFA
0825 BA794 LHR>HEL bisonrav, mtikky, Wozza2404
1020 AY832 LHR>HEL awoxp, vintagepilot, gosha
1144 AA272 ORD>JFK IFE Wizard
1405 AY909 HEL>ARN bisonrav, mtikky, Wozza2404
1600 AY865 HEL>GOT awoxp, gosha
1600 AY813 HEL>ARN vintagepilot
1610 BA6080 LHR>HEL tsmnc
1805 BA781 ARN>LHR bisonrav
1830 AA6133 JFK>LHR IFE Wizard
2345 AY825 HEL>ARN tsmnc

Aug 6th
0825 AA6538 LHR>HEL IFE Wizard
1515 BA779 ARN>LHR mtikky
1600 AY813 HEL>ARN IFE Wizard

Aug 8th
0849 AA291 MIA>JFK squawk
1830 BA112 JFK>LHR squawk

Aug 9th
1020 BA6032 LHR>HEL squawk
1600 BA6043 HEL>ARN squawk

Aug 10th
1215 AA145 MIA>ORD Selador
1735 AY10 ORD>HEL Selador

Aug 11th
1155 AY863 HEL>GOT Selador

Hotels

bisonrav:
July 31st: Cockpit Suite, Jumbo Hotel (in around midnight, so unfortunately no cocktails on the terrace or playing with my knobs)
August 2nd: Staybridge Suites, Austin Airport

Wozza2404

July 31st: Clarion Hotel - ARN
Aug 1st: Moxy - LCY
Aug 2nd: Undecided - Likely something around Penn Station
Aug 3rd: The Julia - South Beach

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Apr 22, 2019, 9:39 am

#151

bisonrav

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Join Date: Dec 2016

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I think I still have the 1.55 connection in JFK, but with global entry and pre-clearance in Shannon, I think that's doable. Might even get special services I guess.

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Apr 22, 2019, 9:45 am

#152

squawk

Join Date: Jul 2012

Location: The North

Posts: 1,844

Quote:

Originally Posted by bisonrav

I think I still have the 1.55 connection in JFK, but with global entry and pre-clearance in Shannon, I think that's doable. Might even get special services I guess.

I wonder if, though it maybe "shouldn't" have let you book it in the first place, it's persisted because your flight to CLT has not changed? In my case, the DCA cancellation had (somehow) auto-rebooked me to CLT - but the first I knew about it was when I rang up, as the website failed to show the itinerary. The (very helpful) agent couldn't get that connection to work, so maybe it's a limit when manually rebooking.

Apr 22, 2019, 11:15 pm

#153

Selador

Join Date: Jan 2019

Location: London

Programs: BA

Posts: 15

I called through to AA on Saturday and spoke with a very helpful agent as noticed the changes on Thursday. I was initially concerned that they had brought the end of season of BA1 forward so pleased that wasn’t the case.

Same as Squawk I also opted for the AA291 on 3rd August and an overnight in JFK rather than Charlotte.

Look forward to seeing you onboard!

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Apr 28, 2019, 4:27 am

#154

awoxp

Join Date: Aug 2015

Location: LHR

Programs: BAEC Gold

Posts: 53

I've just changed mine due to the MCT breach at JFK.

I found my new route and sent the whole lot to AA via Twitter and they did everything within 5mins. Very efficient.

OLD:
02AUG AA2246 1900 JFK-CLT
02AUG AA2092 2234 CLT-MCO
03AUG AA588 0849 MCO-MIA

NEW:
02AUG AA2772 2040 JFK-AUS
03AUG AA1176 0842 AUS-DFW
03AUG AA2314 1253 DFW-MCO
03AUG AA1194 1937 MCO-MIA

All in, another 80 TP from the original itinerary

Apr 29, 2019, 2:52 pm

#155

awoxp

Join Date: Aug 2015

Location: LHR

Programs: BAEC Gold

Posts: 53

I finally got the re-issue ticket through on this and they had removed they had not removed AA588 and AA1194 has dropped off. Quick message on Twitter and half an hour later they came back saying that had to do "some serious work" on my reservation and everything is now sorted. Spotted I had lost my BA seat reservations! 1K on BabyBus and 64K on TATL restored thankfully!

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Apr 30, 2019, 4:22 am

#156

mtikky

Join Date: Nov 2014

Location: West Sussex, UK

Programs: BAEC Gold (11/Dec/18)

Posts: 262

Quote:

Originally Posted by bisonrav

I think I still have the 1.55 connection in JFK, but with global entry and pre-clearance in Shannon, I think that's doable. Might even get special services I guess.

Having noticed a few people changing this flight because of the 1h55 connection at JFK, anything for me to be concerned about @bisonrav ?

Apr 30, 2019, 4:25 am

#157

KARFA

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Originally Posted by mtikky

Having noticed a few people changing this flight because of the 1h55 connection at JFK, anything for me to be concerned about @bisonrav ?

1hr 55mins practically speaking is plenty of time of you land on BA1 or have GE and are connecting from T7 to T8. However, MCT is 2 hours between T7 and T8 and there is no allowance made for BA1. So if a flight has been rebooked or retimed and your connection time has fallen below 2 hours you will have to call to sort it out otherwise at some point the systems will spot it and rebook it for you.

Apr 30, 2019, 4:32 am

#158

bisonrav

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No idea to be honest. The lynchpin remains BA1, if this is cancelled then things change quite considerably. But for the moment I'm leaving things as they are until such a time as I'm contacted. I will probably look at options anyway so I can be proactive if there is a change forced on me.

I haven't even looked at the inter-terminal connections at JFK, but as pre-cleared in Shannon, I imagine I can take an internal connection route? Anyone know?

Not keen on overnighting in NY as it's very expensive. I would probably look to plod on to a more provincial destination during the evening and work from there to get to Miami without losing TPs.

Apr 30, 2019, 4:47 am

#159

rossmacd

Join Date: Jan 2010

Posts: 7,464

Quote:

Originally Posted by bisonrav

I haven't even looked at the inter-terminal connections at JFK, but as pre-cleared in Shannon, I imagine I can take an internal connection route? Anyone know?

There is no such thing for T7 to T8 (or vice versa). You'll be taking the AirTrain (or walking) between T7 to T8 and doing all the normal formalities there.

The only JFK air side option is the DL provided shuttle bus between T2/T4, for their passengers only.

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Apr 30, 2019, 4:50 am

#160

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Originally Posted by bisonrav

I haven't even looked at the inter-terminal connections at JFK, but as pre-cleared in Shannon, I imagine I can take an internal connection route? Anyone know?

What internal connection route would that be?

Basically for any T7<>T8 inter terminal connection at JFK it involves going landside, taking the airtrain, and then going back through security. Bear in mind a OWE can use the flagship check in channel in T8 (far right of the check in hall.

Apr 30, 2019, 6:56 am

#161

vintagepilot

Join Date: Mar 2017

Location: Lincolnshire, UK

Programs: BA GGL - maybe only briefly!

Posts: 1,378

It is worth checking for changes pretty frequently - I've just had another one, without any notification, where they have slid me into economy despite there being business/first options available.

Apr 30, 2019, 7:09 am

#162

sunshinebob

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

I did this T7<>T8 last week on my OTP to PHX TP run and we arrived on BA into JFK along with 2 other planes ( IB + another) and our 2 hour connection was instantly in jeopardy as we joined a very long queue on the downslope well before the toilets with what looked like 90 mins wait for immigration. Within a minute we were "tannoyed" and escorted to the front of the queue by an extremely helpful BA greeter. From there to the airtran took 10 mins, and it pulled in 5 mins later.

The queue at the AA terminal for security was HUGE and took another 30 mins even with us entering into the Premium option. I appreciate it was Easter but there was ample opportunity for us to miss our simple 2 hour connection. Getting off BA1 you of course enter in as a pre cleared domestic passenger but if not be warned.

Last edited by sunshinebob; Apr 30, 2019 at 7:22 am Reason: added last sentence.

Apr 30, 2019, 7:16 am

#163

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Originally Posted by sunshinebob

I did this last week on my OTP to PHX TP run and we arrived on BA into JFK along with 2 other planes ( IB + another) and our 2 hour connection was instantly in jeopardy as we joined a very long queue on the downslope well before the toilets with what looked like 90 mins wait for immigration. Within a minute we were "tannoyed" and escorted to the front of the queue by an extremely helpful BA greeter. From there to the airtran took 10 mins and it pulled in 5 mins later.

The queue at the AA terminal for security was HUGE and took another 30 mins even with us entering into the Premium option. I appreciate it was Easter but there was ample opportunity for us to miss our simple 2 hour connection. Be warned.

Yes. Fortunately it isn't as bad for me these days since I got GE so I am usually out of T7 no more than 5 minutes after stepping off the plane. Also just to fill in some details for those on BA1 for this fare you do not go through the immigration hall and customs when you arrive. Instead you are deposited in the departures area and mix with departing passengers, to get out you follow the signs for arrivals and baggage which takes you to the opposite end of T7 near gate 10 (the babybus usually arrives in to gate 1), and go down and out via the separate domestic baggage hall.

In T8 if you are a OWE you can use flaghip check in which also leads in to ts-precheck if you have that - it usually seems quite fast. There is also a fast track for those not eligible for flagship - but I never found it that fast!

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Apr 30, 2019, 1:22 pm

#164

bisonrav

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After a bit of reflection I've taken the @awoxp routing, as may as well have the TPs as not. It's showing online after a twitter interaction, just now waiting to see whether it tickets OK. Should be up to 720TPs now, which since I booked 640 is quite pleasing. @mtikky please note that I've broken ranks.

Now hoping for a deconstruction of the return, which is mostly a rather dull direct flight from MIA to JFK on the 767.

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May 1, 2019, 2:20 am

#165

mtikky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bisonrav

Have prodded AA on twitter and waiting for them to reply. I'll try for the same rerouting if I can. As BA1 is my first TATL I don't want to risk getting stuck in NY for the night.

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