BA's lack of cyberflashing policy
Nov 13, 2018, 5:32 am
#31
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Another Member's Member?
In which case an identification parade would prove fruitless, but almost certainly memorable! Or ever Memberable :P
Seriously though the chat on twitter is NUTS! Nothing to do with BA at all!
Nov 13, 2018, 5:39 am
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What a lot of absolute nonsense! Nothing whatsoever to do with BA. If somebody wants to complain they should take this up with the police. Whilst I don't believe there is any specific law against sending lewd pictures to an adult, although it may constitute harassment, it is illegal to send them to somebody under 18 so somebody sending images to random people over Bluetooth could inadvertently find themselves on the sex offenders register.
Nov 13, 2018, 5:39 am
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I should write to BA to ask for a firm policy on an echidna attacking an anteater in the presence of two platypuses during first three seconds of a take-off roll of a BA-operated flight.
Nov 13, 2018, 5:42 am
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Nov 13, 2018, 6:19 am
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I’ve just checked mine and it’s Contacts only, can’t recall if I set that myself.
Nov 13, 2018, 6:34 am
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Nov 13, 2018, 6:41 am
#38
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Full disclosure: I know the person concerned (recipient not sender!) - not well but I have met her several times, taken classes run by her and have her books. She is not a "snowflake".
However I also struggle with what on earth BA can do in this situation. As far as I know (though I am no tech expert) it's not possible to tell where airdrop images have come from unless the sender has used their real, full name as their device name, and therefore I can't see any way that the cabin crew, or indeed the police should they be summoned, could identify the perpetrator in a plane full of passengers unless he decided to confess. It isn't therefore the same as if the passenger sat next to you starts verbally or physically assaulting you, where at least you and the cabin crew/police know who it is. So even if they had a policy to say they will not tolerate this, how could it be enforced and what good would it do?
I hear this happens a lot on trains too (never yet to me, but for battery saving purposes I only switch airdrop on when I'm actively expecting something). I wonder if any of them have policies on this?
Perhaps though it would be helpful for BA to give the cabin crew some guidance on what to do if this happens - even if that is only to reassure the passenger that they will keep an eye out for any escalation into verbal or physical threats. From what I have heard of this particular incident they were supportive but equally flummoxed and had not had any training that could cover how to respond.
However I also struggle with what on earth BA can do in this situation. As far as I know (though I am no tech expert) it's not possible to tell where airdrop images have come from unless the sender has used their real, full name as their device name, and therefore I can't see any way that the cabin crew, or indeed the police should they be summoned, could identify the perpetrator in a plane full of passengers unless he decided to confess. It isn't therefore the same as if the passenger sat next to you starts verbally or physically assaulting you, where at least you and the cabin crew/police know who it is. So even if they had a policy to say they will not tolerate this, how could it be enforced and what good would it do?
I hear this happens a lot on trains too (never yet to me, but for battery saving purposes I only switch airdrop on when I'm actively expecting something). I wonder if any of them have policies on this?
Perhaps though it would be helpful for BA to give the cabin crew some guidance on what to do if this happens - even if that is only to reassure the passenger that they will keep an eye out for any escalation into verbal or physical threats. From what I have heard of this particular incident they were supportive but equally flummoxed and had not had any training that could cover how to respond.
Nov 13, 2018, 6:42 am
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From the story:
"Teague, having declined the AirDrop notification on the aircraft, left her seat to inform cabin staff [...]"
And from her own original Twitter about the incident:
(Deleted because I can't work out how to embed tweets without creating a mess of html, but she says she did not accept them.)
Nov 13, 2018, 6:47 am
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She didn't accept them.
From the story:
"Teague, having declined the AirDrop notification on the aircraft, left her seat to inform cabin staff [...]"
And from her own original Twitter about the incident:
(Deleted because I can't work out how to embed tweets without creating a mess of html, but she says she did not accept them.)
From the story:
"Teague, having declined the AirDrop notification on the aircraft, left her seat to inform cabin staff [...]"
And from her own original Twitter about the incident:
(Deleted because I can't work out how to embed tweets without creating a mess of html, but she says she did not accept them.)
Nov 13, 2018, 6:54 am
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One assumes that the sender's name was something less identifying than the e-mail address in the example above.
Nov 13, 2018, 6:56 am
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Makes me wonder though if the woman targeted had a suggestive bluetooth name? I know you can/could change it on Andriod phones, but the prison walled world of apple is a mystery to me.
Like everyone else, I don't know what the woman expected BA to do. I think the crew did a good job dealing with an unknown situation.
Nov 13, 2018, 7:01 am
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Does anyone remember reading in the Metro a phase several years ago of "Toothing" (Bluetooth + Dogging) on the Tube? People changed their bluetooth names to something saucy and others would send pics. How anyone could do it privately on a packed tube I don't know, but I thought it had died a death as people kept their bluetooth off to save battery power and with the rise of dating apps.
Makes me wonder though if the woman targeted had a suggestive bluetooth name? I know you can/could change it on Andriod phones, but the prison walled world of apple is a mystery to me.
Like everyone else, I don't know what the woman expected BA to do. I think the crew did a good job dealing with an unknown situation.
Makes me wonder though if the woman targeted had a suggestive bluetooth name? I know you can/could change it on Andriod phones, but the prison walled world of apple is a mystery to me.
Like everyone else, I don't know what the woman expected BA to do. I think the crew did a good job dealing with an unknown situation.
ETA: regardless, unless your phone's name is literally set to be "Send me dick pics", whatever it might be it is not an invitation to be sent unsolicited dick pics.
Last edited by gingerlucy; Nov 13, 2018 at 7:08 am
Nov 13, 2018, 8:17 am
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Nov 13, 2018, 8:26 am
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I do not believe BA need a cyberflashing policy, any more than they need a "policy" for any other inappropriate behaviour.
Do they have a "flashing" policy? I doubt it.
This should be addressed by whatever process they deal with any inappropriate behaviour
Do they have a "flashing" policy? I doubt it.
This should be addressed by whatever process they deal with any inappropriate behaviour