Anticipated BAEC "Enhancements"
Oct 18, 2018, 2:05 am
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Anticipated BAEC "Enhancements"
So, what's the latest on the much anticipated upcoming changes to BAEC?. It's gone awfully quiet (according to Dr. Google).
I have a strong personal interest, as I already have my 1,500 TP's to renew Gold status, but haven't yet flown any of the required 4 BA flights (they are booked and paid for March and May next year, which may be too late?). Should I bring them forward, I wonder.
Any thoughts would be interesting...
I have a strong personal interest, as I already have my 1,500 TP's to renew Gold status, but haven't yet flown any of the required 4 BA flights (they are booked and paid for March and May next year, which may be too late?). Should I bring them forward, I wonder.
Any thoughts would be interesting...
Oct 18, 2018, 2:10 am
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We don’t know that there are changes being planned. If you took your 4 qualifying flights now you will be able to enjoy your Gold status privileges for the rest of this Membership Year and the whole of the next.
Oct 18, 2018, 2:12 am
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Oct 18, 2018, 2:49 am
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I thought the main change upcoming is that redemptions would be dynamically priced rather than a fixed number of points (with only peak/off peak rates). Basically an extension of part pay with avios, only a slider will go all the way to paying 100% of the ticket with points. Plus booking redemptions would be moved to a separate website, common to all airlines using avios.
Oct 18, 2018, 3:19 am
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Customers with Avios should be dreading BA/IAG management's corporate pirate mentality - a mentality that wants to raid and pillage and more and thereby decimate the value customers in the main get out of Avios points.
Oct 18, 2018, 3:40 am
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Whether for good or bad, whether the end result is ‘favourable’ or not ..... there is little doubt that changes are being planned. That much is no secret.
Alex Cruz touched on impending changes during an event I attended almost exactly 12 months ago (the annual World Travel Market, Excel Arena, London. I can’t recall right now whether the comments came in the speech itself or in the subsequent audience Q&A, but he said he was about to hold internal discussions with the guy who runs Avios.
And since then, much more perspective has been added on this in a piece ran a while back by HfP, where relevant sections of an interview given by AC to the South China Morning post - and which included much discussion on BAEC - is carried.
https://www.headforpoints.com/2018/0...es-avios-baec/
Alex Cruz touched on impending changes during an event I attended almost exactly 12 months ago (the annual World Travel Market, Excel Arena, London. I can’t recall right now whether the comments came in the speech itself or in the subsequent audience Q&A, but he said he was about to hold internal discussions with the guy who runs Avios.
And since then, much more perspective has been added on this in a piece ran a while back by HfP, where relevant sections of an interview given by AC to the South China Morning post - and which included much discussion on BAEC - is carried.
https://www.headforpoints.com/2018/0...es-avios-baec/
Oct 18, 2018, 9:11 am
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In Italian there is a say "worse knows no limit" thus I am pretty sure our dear Alex will surprise us.
I am betting on variable pricing for avios redemptions, which is why I am spending quite casually my Avios these days. I am quite confident they will devalue soon. To be fair, I often manage to book same day redemptions with just 8k Avios round trip in EU for flights that retail for 400 quids or more. Not sure any other airline is so generous, which is why I think BA can reasonably touch it without losing to the competition.
I am betting on variable pricing for avios redemptions, which is why I am spending quite casually my Avios these days. I am quite confident they will devalue soon. To be fair, I often manage to book same day redemptions with just 8k Avios round trip in EU for flights that retail for 400 quids or more. Not sure any other airline is so generous, which is why I think BA can reasonably touch it without losing to the competition.
Oct 19, 2018, 5:57 pm
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Oct 19, 2018, 6:08 pm
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BAEC is most assuredly not QRPC. BA depends on its FFP much more heavily than QR does to attract business, and indeed many will say it’s the jewel in the airline’s crown in terms of marketability. I would seriously doubt BA would do anything major that would put that in jeopardy - have no doubt that it is very high thought of internally and has a massive profile within Waterside.
Oct 19, 2018, 11:17 pm
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I was going to post just that. At this price point, it’s approaching 100% of various paid fares such as OTP-PHX. I’d be slightly less offended if BA awarded tier points for travel on award tickets given the high surcharges as it’s closer to a part cash part Avios with these surcharge increases.
