Colleagues not taking their first class seats
#1
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Colleagues not taking their first class seats
Odd scenario...
We are a group of 6 people. 2of the guys are not taking their flight home (one moved to another day, one just booked another flight but has for some reason checkedin) only the 3 F tickets are on one booking though
The others are one in F, one in C and one in wtp.
Is there any advice or mileage in asking for opups to their (paid for!) Seats ?
Boarding in 4 hours so any advice welcome !
Thanks in advance guys
We are a group of 6 people. 2of the guys are not taking their flight home (one moved to another day, one just booked another flight but has for some reason checkedin) only the 3 F tickets are on one booking though
The others are one in F, one in C and one in wtp.
Is there any advice or mileage in asking for opups to their (paid for!) Seats ?
Boarding in 4 hours so any advice welcome !
Thanks in advance guys
Last edited by dukesy; Oct 11, 2018 at 6:00 pm
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odds on an op-up - virtually zero. These seats are not for your mates to hand over to anyone else once they have failed to check in / or moved to another flight they are no longer their seats.
if BA needs to do op-ups they have an algorythm that makes the decison on who gets them. They won't upgrade just because the seats are now empty
if BA needs to do op-ups they have an algorythm that makes the decison on who gets them. They won't upgrade just because the seats are now empty
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BA will re-open those seats and re-allocate / re-sell / accommodate new customers changing flights / accommodate operationally necessary upgrades etc. as they see fit
My wife once had to cancel a trip with me at very short notice (she was due to join for a work event) - her (former) Club World seat was occupied by someone else when I got on board, even though we had only called through the cancellation whilst I was heading to the airport less than 2 hours before. BA won't hang around with this.
Bad luck...
My wife once had to cancel a trip with me at very short notice (she was due to join for a work event) - her (former) Club World seat was occupied by someone else when I got on board, even though we had only called through the cancellation whilst I was heading to the airport less than 2 hours before. BA won't hang around with this.
Bad luck...
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Obviously if they've used their existing booking and changed/cancelled it, there isn't such a thing as "their seat" anymore...
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"Their seat" does not exist, whatever the reason. Whether the two changed their tickets or simply no showed, once they do not occupy the seat by the deadline, it is gone and not theirs to assign.
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It wouldn't make a difference if one PNR and some had dropped out from travelling. Particularly at LHR T5, since 34 minutes before departure the computer would know that the people concerned were not in the building and would be merrily assigning seats based on BA's priorities, rather than the priorities of those remaining on the PNR.
Either way, you best cancel and potentially get some of the taxes back.
Either way, you best cancel and potentially get some of the taxes back.
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No. A PNR is simply a passenger record. Every passenger has his own ticket and therefore his own contract with the carrier. The lone exception are 2-4-1 and other similar deals where one passenger is an "appendage" of the other.
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OK.. Apologies for delayed response , but have been travelling !
So, this is a more in depth breakdown and what the outcome was !
3 people from one company booked in F some time ago (Lets call them X, Y and Z), a few months later another colleague joined them on a seperate booking but in C, (as prices had leapt!)
Z (the owner of the company) decided to simply book another ticket to allow him to go play golf in Florida or somewhere), and as far as he was concerned "Throw away" his return. That left the 2 guys in F, and once in C.
Meanwhile I was in a separate booking (different company!) in WTP.. The question would have been better phrased as "Can we ask to move the C passenger up to the now spare F seat, and IF SO, move the WTP to the now vacant C?"
I know this was always a leap, but the fact that the owner had already CHECKED IN and had a F Boarding pass (that he had forwarded to his colleague in C) made us wonder how they could reallocate him trtavelliong with Hand luggage only, as he could techincially just turn up at the gate!).
The outcome was exactly as you guys expected. NO op ups, F seat went to someone else !
I DID manage 6 hours sleep on way back though, so there is that !
So, this is a more in depth breakdown and what the outcome was !
3 people from one company booked in F some time ago (Lets call them X, Y and Z), a few months later another colleague joined them on a seperate booking but in C, (as prices had leapt!)
Z (the owner of the company) decided to simply book another ticket to allow him to go play golf in Florida or somewhere), and as far as he was concerned "Throw away" his return. That left the 2 guys in F, and once in C.
Meanwhile I was in a separate booking (different company!) in WTP.. The question would have been better phrased as "Can we ask to move the C passenger up to the now spare F seat, and IF SO, move the WTP to the now vacant C?"
I know this was always a leap, but the fact that the owner had already CHECKED IN and had a F Boarding pass (that he had forwarded to his colleague in C) made us wonder how they could reallocate him trtavelliong with Hand luggage only, as he could techincially just turn up at the gate!).
The outcome was exactly as you guys expected. NO op ups, F seat went to someone else !
I DID manage 6 hours sleep on way back though, so there is that !