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DIRECT MERIT Oct 11, 2018 11:34 am
Ba 1039 lhr-pek
 
Has anyone taken this flight recently with its ungodly 04.50 arrival? Just wondering if it’s worth booking the hotel for the night before, otherwise if the room isn’t ready it’s a long long wait to check in. Finnair isn’t much better (closer to 8am) and Cathay is round the houses - and doesn’t earn AAdvantage miles in the cheaper fare classes. Better arrival times (lunchtime) on LH, OS et al, but a completely different alliance.

ThrowingBoeing Oct 11, 2018 11:42 am
Originally Posted by DIRECT MERIT (Post 30304197)
Has anyone taken this flight recently with its ungodly 04.50 arrival? Just wondering if it’s worth booking the hotel for the night before, otherwise if the room isn’t ready it’s a long long wait to check in. Finnair isn’t much better (closer to 8am) and Cathay is round the houses - and doesn’t earn AAdvantage miles in the cheaper fare classes. Better arrival times (lunchtime) on LH, OS et al, but a completely different alliance.
Are you talking about the BA39? In which case yes, I have taken it but I'm sure it arrives mid morning?

Takiteasy Oct 11, 2018 11:45 am
Originally Posted by DIRECT MERIT (Post 30304197)
Has anyone taken this flight recently with its ungodly 04.50 arrival? Just wondering if it’s worth booking the hotel for the night before, otherwise if the room isn’t ready it’s a long long wait to check in. Finnair isn’t much better (closer to 8am) and Cathay is round the houses - and doesn’t earn AAdvantage miles in the cheaper fare classes. Better arrival times (lunchtime) on LH, OS et al, but a completely different alliance.
Can’t remember any BA flight to PEK I have taken arriving at crazy hours. Just checked the timetable and it still arrives at 0930 today...

ThrowingBoeing Oct 11, 2018 11:45 am
Originally Posted by ThrowingBoeing (Post 30304240)
Are you talking about the BA39? In which case yes, I have taken it but I'm sure it arrives mid morning?
My apologies it appears on Friday departures the flight is numbered BA1039 and arrives at 4 in the morning. Anyone know why this is?

The _Banking_Scot Oct 11, 2018 11:45 am
Originally Posted by ThrowingBoeing (Post 30304240)
Are you talking about the BA39? In which case yes, I have taken it but I'm sure it arrives mid morning?
Hi,

For 6 days a week ( looking at early Nov) the flight BA 039 does arrive at PEK at 1025 but for the Friday the flight number is 1039 and it does arrive at 0450.



Regards

TBS

PS Sorry I was typing at the same time as you!

DIRECT MERIT Oct 11, 2018 11:50 am
Annoyingly I have to travel on the Friday!

Globaliser Oct 11, 2018 11:51 am
Originally Posted by ThrowingBoeing (Post 30304260)
My apologies it appears on Friday departures the flight is numbered BA1039 and arrives at 4 in the morning. Anyone know why this is?
It's to avoid having two flights with the same number arriving or departing on the same day. You have to look at local time at origin, local time at destination and UTC to see which is the problematic one.

Engineering Travel Oct 11, 2018 12:06 pm
If its miles that you require for AA, possibly consider PVG, then either train or cheap flight to PEK.
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Globaliser Oct 11, 2018 12:07 pm
For those who are puzzling about the phrase "taken this flight recently", an 0450 arrival is not the current schedule for BA39. This comes in with the northern winter schedule that begins on Sunday 28 October 2018.

And for those who want to see the theory in action, this is I think a typical week, with the problematic clashes bolded:-

Code:
BA39 / BA1039 LHR-PEK

Dep LHR  UTC      Arr PEK  UTC
Mon 1625 Mon 1625  Tue 1025 Tue 0225
Tue 1625 Tue 1625  Wed 1025 Wed 0225
Wed 1625 Wed 1625  Thu 1025 Thu 0225
Thu 1625 Thu 1625  Fri 1025 Fri 0225
Fri 1050 Fri 1050  Sat 0450 Fri 2050 (thus BA1039 not BA39)
Sat 1625 Sat 1625  Sun 1025 Sun 0225
Sun 1625 Sun 1625  Mon 1025 Mon 0225
.
.
.
Code:
BA38 / BA1038 PEK-LHR

Dep PEK  UTC      Arr LHR  UTC
Mon 1210 Mon 0410  Mon 1535 Mon 1535
Tue 1210 Tue 0410  Tue 1535 Tue 1535
Wed 1210 Wed 0410  Wed 1535 Wed 1535
Thu 1210 Thu 0410  Thu 1535 Thu 1535
Fri 1210 Fri 0410  Fri 1535 Fri 1535
Sat 0635 Fri 2235  Sat 1000 Sat 1000 (thus BA1038 not BA38)
Sun 1210 Sun 0410  Sun 1535 Sun 1535
.
.
.

Takiteasy Oct 11, 2018 12:17 pm
Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 30304357)
For those who are puzzling about the phrase "taken this flight recently", an 0450 arrival is not the current schedule for BA39. This comes in with the northern winter schedule that begins on Sunday 28 October 2018.

And for those who want to see the theory in action, this is I think a typical week, with the problematic clashes bolded:-

Code:
BA39 / BA1039 LHR-PEK

Dep LHR UTC Arr PEK UTC
Mon 1625 Mon 1625 Tue 1025 Tue 0225
Tue 1625 Tue 1625 Wed 1025 Wed 0225
Wed 1625 Wed 1625 Thu 1025 Thu 0225
Thu 1625 Thu 1625 Fri 1025 Fri 0225
Fri 1050 Fri 1050 Sat 0450 Fri 2050 (thus BA1039 not BA39)
Sat 1625 Sat 1625 Sun 1025 Sun 0225
Sun 1625 Sun 1625 Mon 1025 Mon 0225
.
.
.
Code:
BA38 / BA1038 PEK-LHR

Dep PEK UTC Arr LHR UTC
Mon 1210 Mon 0410 Mon 1535 Mon 1535
Tue 1210 Tue 0410 Tue 1535 Tue 1535
Wed 1210 Wed 0410 Wed 1535 Wed 1535
Thu 1210 Thu 0410 Thu 1535 Thu 1535
Fri 1210 Fri 0410 Fri 1535 Fri 1535
Sat 0635 Fri 2235 Sat 1000 Sat 1000 (thus BA1038 not BA38)
Sun 1210 Sun 0410 Sun 1535 Sun 1535
.
.
.
Enlightening post on the scheduling technicalities! Thanks!

labdoctor Oct 11, 2018 12:40 pm
Does anyone know why Fridays are singled out for this arrangement though? I suppose there must be a reason, otherwise they could just schedule it at the same time irrespective of what day it is.

adrianlondon Oct 11, 2018 12:44 pm
I'd ask hotels you're interested in whether they have an option for a room to be available from e.g. 8am.

I remember once arriving early in HK (not 8am type early though!) and whilst the hotel wouldn't let us have our room really early (I didn't think to ask in advance) they did say we could use the gym and their changing room/showers to freshen up and get changed. That's all we needed.

mediator Oct 11, 2018 1:18 pm
OP you will be fine. Most hotels in Beijing are pretty relaxed about check in time, unless there is a major event in town. By the time you cleared passport and custom etc, you will be at landside 6ish. Add an hour at least for getting to downtown so that’s 7am already.

wjbesh Oct 11, 2018 1:29 pm
On a recent trip to Beijing, one of my group arrived on a flight around the same time (4-5am) and had no issue getting in to their room early at the Peninsula when they arrived at around 6am...called ahead before the flight and was told it was easy to accommodate.

DIRECT MERIT Oct 11, 2018 1:55 pm
Great, I’ll contact the hotel. The arrival into PEK is barely mid-evening in the UK, so a few hours’ sleep after what’s basically a daytime flight from LHR feels key!


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