Enough is enough - Bye bye BA - I'm out
#211
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Slightly OT, but yes ... a lot of difference beween a pure TP run and a TP-efficient holiday! Currently looking at a LON-PHL-DCA with AA to visit friends in VA, generating a few more TPs than a simple LHR-IAD with BA. We have the time to meander to where were going, and can choose different airlines that go where we want to be.
#212
Join Date: Nov 2015
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Slightly OT, but yes ... a lot of difference beween a pure TP run and a TP-efficient holiday! Currently looking at a LON-PHL-DCA with AA to visit friends in VA, generating a few more TPs than a simple LHR-IAD with BA. We have the time to meander to where we’re going, and can choose different airlines that go where we want to be.
Funny you mention this particular route, for Washington DC JFK/PHL/BOS would be my choice anyway to arrive at DCA, rather than IAD. I did BWI last time, just to get a 787 and do something different, nice airport to arrive at in the evening for smooth border/customs, but the public transport options are not good with the BA arrival time. MARC trains very limited in the evening, Amtrak seemed to require booking a specific train, ended up on the bus to Greenbelt and then metro. Got the sense that the bus took some sort of scenic route.
#213
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#214
Join Date: Sep 2000
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I don't fly BA often, but it is the only airline that I have flown long haul in all four of their cabin classes. F and PE were well up to expectation, but Business and Economy were disappointing. Service, more hit than miss, in my experience.
Unless there was a great deal in J, I would probably look at the competition.
Unless there was a great deal in J, I would probably look at the competition.
#215
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Having just attended an event today at which the principal speaker was The Donald, your post reminds me of one of his favourite expressions: "FAKE NEWS". I am quite certain that no-one from that esteemed list has any problems with anyone posting positive or negative comments about anything provided that it adheres to the FlyerTalk Rules.
#216
Join Date: Sep 2013
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For me it's less a case of "bye bye" and more a case of "I don't like you as much as I used to, and now it's a marriage of convenience". I am playing away from home more these days on OW partners who generally offer a better service, but BA still has a role to play. My last CE experience was good, however my last ET was woeful in practically every sense and at every stage of the flight. The inconsistency is baffling.
#217
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"IFE on my flight this AM was broker" - "IFE never breaks on QR"
"The Cab Sav on CW this AM was served chilled" - "The Cab Sav on QR is always served at EXACTLY the right temp"
etc...
etc...
The latest seems to be in any conversation about BA F that QR Q suites are much better than BA F in every conceivable way, despite QR somehow getting 10 more seats into the same space BA fits 14
#218
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I think its more the endless pigeon holing of QR into every possible discussion by certain posters (cough cough) at any given opportunity that people tire of
"IFE on my flight this AM was broker" - "IFE never breaks on QR"
"The Cab Sav on CW this AM was served chilled" - "The Cab Sav on QR is always served at EXACTLY the right temp"
etc...
etc...
The latest seems to be in any conversation about BA F that QR Q suites are much better than BA F in every conceivable way, despite QR somehow getting 10 more seats into the same space BA fits 14
"IFE on my flight this AM was broker" - "IFE never breaks on QR"
"The Cab Sav on CW this AM was served chilled" - "The Cab Sav on QR is always served at EXACTLY the right temp"
etc...
etc...
The latest seems to be in any conversation about BA F that QR Q suites are much better than BA F in every conceivable way, despite QR somehow getting 10 more seats into the same space BA fits 14
#219
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#220
Join Date: Nov 2004
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I think it is fairly natural that the BA fanboys hang out on the BA forum, and don't like their favourite airline being criticised.
#221
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Comfort in club Europe? Is there such a thing in the cramped space they call a seat??? 🤔🙄
#222
Join Date: Oct 2017
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#223
Join Date: Jul 2017
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I guess its all relative, but personally speaking i find I can always get an exit seat in ET and, normally, a bulk head in CE, so I'm pretty happy for my 90min flights. The seats are otherwise pretty cramped but that's not particularly different to other EU carriers. Until the company lets me go private, I'm quite happy with BA.
#224
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What at amazes me is is all this fuss and sarcasm after nearly 40 years. It was such a bad idea that it was immediately adopted throughout Europe. There are no exceptions because it suits the market, it would appear. Make no mistake, First Class it is not.
#225
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Slightly OT, but yes ... a lot of difference beween a pure TP run and a TP-efficient holiday! Currently looking at a LON-PHL-DCA with AA to visit friends in VA, generating a few more TPs than a simple LHR-IAD with BA. We have the time to meander to where were going, and can choose different airlines that go where we want to be.