Sep 29, 2018, 10:12 am
BA to close HKG base [confirmed for Cabin Crew]
Sep 26, 2018, 6:51 am
#77
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Actually no, that is not correct. The question was "does anyone flying from London to HKG choose BA." It is not accurate to simply state an A380 and 777 aircraft a day.
BA fill their aircraft with ex EU transfer traffic and a great deal of other transfer traffic.
On a point to point basis only (ie) originate LHR, more passengers choose CX over BA particularly in premium cabins.
Moreover with Cathay operating 4 to BAs 2 flights a day more people overall ( direct and transfer) chose CX than BA even taking account of transfer traffic.
BA fill their aircraft with ex EU transfer traffic and a great deal of other transfer traffic.
On a point to point basis only (ie) originate LHR, more passengers choose CX over BA particularly in premium cabins.
Moreover with Cathay operating 4 to BAs 2 flights a day more people overall ( direct and transfer) chose CX than BA even taking account of transfer traffic.
Sep 26, 2018, 7:00 am
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Sep 26, 2018, 7:12 am
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Garry Bird has some tremendous accolades in his LinkedIn profile. It's almost enough to bring up my lunch.
Hope him and Cruz get a nice bonus this year and I do dearly hope Garry is reading this thread.
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Sep 26, 2018, 7:13 am
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Flying east is a different story though. BA do not compare well when compared to many Eastern outfits and I really can't imagine "choosing" BA over Singapore/Emirates/JAL/CK etc etc.
Flying west (which is what I do) BA are a solid option. Flying east? I'm surprised people choose BA in truth. There is nearly always a better option.
Flying west (which is what I do) BA are a solid option. Flying east? I'm surprised people choose BA in truth. There is nearly always a better option.
Sep 26, 2018, 7:21 am
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Any chance WW Fleet and MF might get together and call for a strike in protest of the treatment of their fellow CC being axed with a days notice?
Sep 26, 2018, 7:24 am
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Sep 26, 2018, 7:27 am
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The HKG crew have been given their legally required notice, they have just been stood down from operations and are not required to work during their notice period.
Sep 26, 2018, 7:42 am
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I wish the cabin crew well.
The letter is very disappointing, and whilst BA may have felt the commercial need to close the hub it could clearly have been managed more politely. So, whilst I'm not convinced that 85 people's worth of hotels is that cheap in the city, I do recognise that local wages are high in comparison to the UK, and if BA was really in competition with Cathay for staff the additional non salary benefits may have been very high (e.g. Cathay pilots here are getting close to Ł10k a month of housing allowance, which I appreciate is far more than cabin crew would get, but shows the general direction, even if they are trying to get rid of these).
Sep 26, 2018, 7:45 am
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Garry Bird has some tremendous accolades in his LinkedIn profile. It's almost enough to bring up my lunch.
Hope him and Cruz get a nice bonus this year and I do dearly hope Garry is reading this thread.
Hope him and Cruz get a nice bonus this year and I do dearly hope Garry is reading this thread.
Sep 26, 2018, 8:06 am
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Peck. Spot on. That is BA 2018. Says it all.
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In my experience, since the late 80s, English has decreased, not increased. The Co I worked for worked through a lot of HKG and Cantonese traders. We often had a few drinks with them. Back in the late 80s we could mostly make ourselves understood without translators, and we went to some, er, interesting restaurants.
After handover, politically some of the Cantonese who spoke a little English were forced to take a lower profile, and the mainland Govt approved characters did more trading. I have no idea about how the bribery worked.
There are now quite a few non-English speaking businesses, restaurants and shpos now.
Flytowhere.
In my experience, since the late 80s, English has decreased, not increased. The Co I worked for worked through a lot of HKG and Cantonese traders. We often had a few drinks with them. Back in the late 80s we could mostly make ourselves understood without translators, and we went to some, er, interesting restaurants.
After handover, politically some of the Cantonese who spoke a little English were forced to take a lower profile, and the mainland Govt approved characters did more trading. I have no idea about how the bribery worked.
There are now quite a few non-English speaking businesses, restaurants and shpos now.
Sep 26, 2018, 8:15 am
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Sep 26, 2018, 8:26 am
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Which AFAIK in HK is somewhere between 2 and 4 weeks. It is not a generous gesture in the least. HK is a 'right to work' kind of place, which means laying off employees is very simple and requires no consultation or rationale (not trying to be a lawyer, just based on my own experiences here)...
As do I, it is always sad to learn of people losing their jobs. It is not a pleasant experience, especially so if it comes out of the blue and there is little advance notice.
Sep 26, 2018, 8:37 am
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Garry Bird has some tremendous accolades in his LinkedIn profile. It's almost enough to bring up my lunch.
Hope him and Cruz get a nice bonus this year and I do dearly hope Garry is reading this thread.
Hope him and Cruz get a nice bonus this year and I do dearly hope Garry is reading this thread.