How many of people with status are there?
Sep 20, 2018, 7:55 am
#16
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Sep 20, 2018, 8:10 am
#18
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Sep 20, 2018, 9:26 am
#19
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Sep 20, 2018, 12:39 pm
#22
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Sep 20, 2018, 12:50 pm
#23
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Just curious if this knowledge is known outside of BA? For curiosity I would love to know how many...
People fly BA in a year, and of which how many are:
Blue 16,785,453 ( pending today's sign-ups)
Bronze 12,665,169
Silver 9,280,117
Gold 876,009
GGL 24,870
GGLFL 1,241
.
People fly BA in a year, and of which how many are:
Blue 16,785,453 ( pending today's sign-ups)
Bronze 12,665,169
Silver 9,280,117
Gold 876,009
GGL 24,870
GGLFL 1,241
.
Sep 20, 2018, 12:52 pm
#24
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Whichever, apart from natural curiousity, I don’t give a <whatsit> about how many Golds there are .. so long as we are two
Sep 20, 2018, 1:38 pm
#25
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Assuming this needs dividing by the respective average flights per year according to status.
Certainly starts to get too complicated with far too many variables to get anywhere close to accurate.
It it would be great if one of friends from BA could leak some data 🤭
Certainly starts to get too complicated with far too many variables to get anywhere close to accurate.
It it would be great if one of friends from BA could leak some data 🤭
Sep 20, 2018, 5:36 pm
#26
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What I always find funny is how much the Gold number is inflated in these past threads. If one is talking strictly BAEC Gold, the number has never been 70-100k as some have surmised, I believe it topped off somewhere short of 50,000 about five years ago (something like 45k IIRC) and now probably hovers around 40k. A general rule of thumb across all carriers is that with some variation is:
1) Top (regular) tiers generally are 1/2-1% of any airlines membership.
2) In a three tier program, there is generally a factor of 4-5 between numbers of passengers (again regular tiers, not GGL or Premier), So if there are 40,000 Golds, there are 180,000 Silvers and about 600,000 Bronze (The BA Bronze metric is a bit skewed for a number of reasons). These numbers do of course fluctuate year to year.
3) Super tiers on BA (Premiere and GGL) generally do not exceed 3,500 in a given year (In essence 1% of Gold, so in reality 1% of the almost 1%)
4) The ideal level for any airline is to have 10%-15% of your customers with some sort of status.
5) Top tier passengers for traditional trunk carriers generally make up 5-10% of an airlines revenue and all status customers can make up more than 40% of an airlines revenue.
1) Top (regular) tiers generally are 1/2-1% of any airlines membership.
2) In a three tier program, there is generally a factor of 4-5 between numbers of passengers (again regular tiers, not GGL or Premier), So if there are 40,000 Golds, there are 180,000 Silvers and about 600,000 Bronze (The BA Bronze metric is a bit skewed for a number of reasons). These numbers do of course fluctuate year to year.
3) Super tiers on BA (Premiere and GGL) generally do not exceed 3,500 in a given year (In essence 1% of Gold, so in reality 1% of the almost 1%)
4) The ideal level for any airline is to have 10%-15% of your customers with some sort of status.
5) Top tier passengers for traditional trunk carriers generally make up 5-10% of an airlines revenue and all status customers can make up more than 40% of an airlines revenue.
Sep 20, 2018, 6:33 pm
#28
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more skewed than that. My first BA-GOLD was by virtue of MH flight TP's , and 2x LHR-AMS for the 4x BA flights. Must be loads of BA elites due to directing flight earnings to BA
not all BA-Golds fly on BA, especially imho those like me mainly residing outside of the uk
not all BA-Golds fly on BA, especially imho those like me mainly residing outside of the uk
Sep 21, 2018, 12:36 am
#29
Join Date: May 2013
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What I always find funny is how much the Gold number is inflated in these past threads. If one is talking strictly BAEC Gold, the number has never been 70-100k as some have surmised, I believe it topped off somewhere short of 50,000 about five years ago (something like 45k IIRC) and now probably hovers around 40k. A general rule of thumb across all carriers is that with some variation is:
1) Top (regular) tiers generally are 1/2-1% of any airlines membership.
2) In a three tier program, there is generally a factor of 4-5 between numbers of passengers (again regular tiers, not GGL or Premier), So if there are 40,000 Golds, there are 180,000 Silvers and about 600,000 Bronze (The BA Bronze metric is a bit skewed for a number of reasons). These numbers do of course fluctuate year to year.
3) Super tiers on BA (Premiere and GGL) generally do not exceed 3,500 in a given year (In essence 1% of Gold, so in reality 1% of the almost 1%)
4) The ideal level for any airline is to have 10%-15% of your customers with some sort of status.
5) Top tier passengers for traditional trunk carriers generally make up 5-10% of an airlines revenue and all status customers can make up more than 40% of an airlines revenue.
1) Top (regular) tiers generally are 1/2-1% of any airlines membership.
2) In a three tier program, there is generally a factor of 4-5 between numbers of passengers (again regular tiers, not GGL or Premier), So if there are 40,000 Golds, there are 180,000 Silvers and about 600,000 Bronze (The BA Bronze metric is a bit skewed for a number of reasons). These numbers do of course fluctuate year to year.
3) Super tiers on BA (Premiere and GGL) generally do not exceed 3,500 in a given year (In essence 1% of Gold, so in reality 1% of the almost 1%)
4) The ideal level for any airline is to have 10%-15% of your customers with some sort of status.
5) Top tier passengers for traditional trunk carriers generally make up 5-10% of an airlines revenue and all status customers can make up more than 40% of an airlines revenue.
Sep 21, 2018, 2:02 am
#30
Join Date: Sep 2013
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I myself knew immediately that all the analysis offered was 100% bang on the money, and had no reason to doubt it in any way. It was the use of insider terminology such as general rule of thumb, and ideal level, and, in particular, the revelatory fact that figures fluctuate from year to year which gave the clue.
