WTP Madrid to London 777

Old Sep 15, 18, 2:15 pm
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WTP Madrid to London 777

so am booked in euro traveller from
madrid to London tomorrow.

I noticed on the way out that WTP was being used presumably by Euro Traveller

using online check in the seat map
shows 2-4-2 configuration across whole aircraft

is this a mistake or do some flights to/from MAD leave WTP empty ?

currently have 18J and hoping itís WTP and an aisle.

any thoughts ?

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Old Sep 15, 18, 2:30 pm
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WT+ is usually a premium cabin when a longhaul plane is used within Europe
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Old Sep 15, 18, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter View Post
WT+ is usually a premium cabin when a longhaul plane is used within Europe
Incorrect. The 777 to MAD runs its lie-flat CW seats as CE. From what I've seen this year WTP seats are available to ET. Unaware how these are allocated, however, the last flight I was on, maybe 8wks ago, WTP was being used as WT seating.
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Old Sep 15, 18, 3:21 pm
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Thanks both -- yes i flew out CE on flat bed (no duvets, pillows or washbags though). Iīve had a look at flightstats and basource and its G-ZZZA operating and basource shows 18J as an aisle in WTP. Letīs see what happens tomorrow !!
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Old Sep 15, 18, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks View Post
Incorrect. The 777 to MAD runs its lie-flat CW seats as CE. From what I've seen this year WTP seats are available to ET. Unaware how these are allocated, however, the last flight I was on, maybe 8wks ago, WTP was being used as WT seating.
Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.

edited to add - WT+ does now show as ET but fully blocked. I wonder if this the rule for 4 class planes running Euro routes now?
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Old Sep 15, 18, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter View Post


Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.
That's correct that when the longhaul 767s were still around and operating shorthaul routes (as substitutes rather than on a regular basis), WTP was sold as CE if there weren't enough seats in the CW cabin to accommodate all CE passengers.

The 777 is a regular daily fixture on the MAD route, and WTP is always sold as ET (with seats often held back for status passengers). F is sometimes available for CE passengers (often just for status passengers) when the CW cabin is full. The particular 777s used are either 77Ws or G-VII* 772s.
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Old Sep 15, 18, 4:37 pm
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The WTP cabin on the 777 was used three weeks ago for ET. CW seating being the CE cabin.

Ba.com MMB was showing the WTP cabin as blocked . However it was possible to select seats in the WTP cabin with ET tickets before check in opened via Qantas.com.
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Earlier this year, I saw the WTP section on a three class 777 to MAD was used as CE.
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Old Sep 15, 18, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter View Post


Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.

edited to add - WT+ does now show as ET but fully blocked. I wonder if this the rule for 4 class planes running Euro routes now?
If it's a full plane it'd be a shame to not run CE into F. I've not seen this happen, but I've only flown the route about three times in the last 18mnths.

Last time I flew the WTP cabin was definitely used as ET. As you say, however, this may fluctuate (just to ensure BA' s inconsistency, eh?!). I've never witnessed this myself though.
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If it's a full plane it'd be a shame to not run CE into F. I've not seen this happen, but I've only flown the route about three times in the last 18mnths.
My companion and I came back from Madrid in F last Wednesday so it can happen. Very nice it was too!
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My MAD-LHR on a 777 in ET enabled me to travel WTP. I think when loads dictate it’s used otherwise it’s blocked off. Likewise the F cabin is sometimes used for CE but it’s more common from what I’ve seen for WTP to be used as Eat than F as CE.
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Old Sep 16, 18, 10:55 am
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Live from on board

so am live on board at this moment ...

G-ZZZA

first is being used for CE. Saw three people settling in as I got on

club is full !!

Wtp is full (yes I managed to get a WTP seat) and peering behind WT looks fairly full too !!

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Last week and the week before I was on BA460/461 on 4 Class B777-200’s, I was only able to select seats in the WT cabin although WTP was being used (and mostly full on the 461 MAD-LHR). WT was not quite full so I don’t know how it would have been possible to get a seat in WTP, I suspect that as I was on really cheap economy tickets booked well in advance that I was restricted to the WT only cabin.
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Old Sep 16, 18, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Nimrod1965 View Post
Last week and the week before I was on BA460/461 on 4 Class B777-200ís, I was only able to select seats in the WT cabin although WTP was being used (and mostly full on the 461 MAD-LHR). WT was not quite full so I donít know how it would have been possible to get a seat in WTP, I suspect that as I was on really cheap economy tickets booked well in advance that I was restricted to the WT only cabin.
Do you have status? WTP is often reserved for Gold/Silver members travelling in ET.
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Do you have status? WTP is often reserved for Gold/Silver members travelling in ET.
Yes, Silver.
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