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LCYBOY Sep 15, 2018 1:15 pm

WTP Madrid to London 777
 
so am booked in euro traveller from
madrid to London tomorrow.

I noticed on the way out that WTP was being used presumably by Euro Traveller

using online check in the seat map
shows 2-4-2 configuration across whole aircraft

is this a mistake or do some flights to/from MAD leave WTP empty ?

currently have 18J and hoping it’s WTP and an aisle.

any thoughts ?


Swanhunter Sep 15, 2018 1:30 pm

WT+ is usually a premium cabin when a longhaul plane is used within Europe

mmxbreaks Sep 15, 2018 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 30207245)
WT+ is usually a premium cabin when a longhaul plane is used within Europe

Incorrect. The 777 to MAD runs its lie-flat CW seats as CE. From what I've seen this year WTP seats are available to ET. Unaware how these are allocated, however, the last flight I was on, maybe 8wks ago, WTP was being used as WT seating.

LCYBOY Sep 15, 2018 2:21 pm

Thanks both -- yes i flew out CE on flat bed (no duvets, pillows or washbags though). I´ve had a look at flightstats and basource and its G-ZZZA operating and basource shows 18J as an aisle in WTP. Let´s see what happens tomorrow !!

Swanhunter Sep 15, 2018 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by mmxbreaks (Post 30207336)
Incorrect. The 777 to MAD runs its lie-flat CW seats as CE. From what I've seen this year WTP seats are available to ET. Unaware how these are allocated, however, the last flight I was on, maybe 8wks ago, WTP was being used as WT seating.

Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.

edited to add - WT+ does now show as ET but fully blocked. I wonder if this the rule for 4 class planes running Euro routes now?

Genius1 Sep 15, 2018 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 30207390)


Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.

That's correct that when the longhaul 767s were still around and operating shorthaul routes (as substitutes rather than on a regular basis), WTP was sold as CE if there weren't enough seats in the CW cabin to accommodate all CE passengers.

The 777 is a regular daily fixture on the MAD route, and WTP is always sold as ET (with seats often held back for status passengers). F is sometimes available for CE passengers (often just for status passengers) when the CW cabin is full. The particular 777s used are either 77Ws or G-VII* 772s.

cwl Sep 15, 2018 3:37 pm

The WTP cabin on the 777 was used three weeks ago for ET. CW seating being the CE cabin.

Ba.com MMB was showing the WTP cabin as blocked . However it was possible to select seats in the WTP cabin with ET tickets before check in opened via Qantas.com.

TravellerFrequently Sep 15, 2018 4:20 pm

Earlier this year, I saw the WTP section on a three class 777 to MAD was used as CE.

mmxbreaks Sep 15, 2018 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 30207390)


Actually, not incorrect. When the LH 767 was used to IST and ATH WT+ was usually CE... and I recall the same to MAD too. Of course that is not guaranteed, hence the usually in my statement.

edited to add - WT+ does now show as ET but fully blocked. I wonder if this the rule for 4 class planes running Euro routes now?

If it's a full plane it'd be a shame to not run CE into F. I've not seen this happen, but I've only flown the route about three times in the last 18mnths.

Last time I flew the WTP cabin was definitely used as ET. As you say, however, this may fluctuate (just to ensure BA' s inconsistency, eh?!). I've never witnessed this myself though.

BA235 Sep 16, 2018 12:37 am


Originally Posted by mmxbreaks (Post 30207677)
If it's a full plane it'd be a shame to not run CE into F. I've not seen this happen, but I've only flown the route about three times in the last 18mnths.

My companion and I came back from Madrid in F last Wednesday so it can happen. Very nice it was too!

KeaneJohn Sep 16, 2018 12:53 am

My MAD-LHR on a 777 in ET enabled me to travel WTP. I think when loads dictate it’s used otherwise it’s blocked off. Likewise the F cabin is sometimes used for CE but it’s more common from what I’ve seen for WTP to be used as Eat than F as CE.

LCYBOY Sep 16, 2018 9:55 am

Live from on board
 
so am live on board at this moment ...

G-ZZZA

first is being used for CE. Saw three people settling in as I got on

club is full !!

Wtp is full (yes I managed to get a WTP seat) and peering behind WT looks fairly full too !!


Nimrod1965 Sep 16, 2018 10:40 am

Last week and the week before I was on BA460/461 on 4 Class B777-200’s, I was only able to select seats in the WT cabin although WTP was being used (and mostly full on the 461 MAD-LHR). WT was not quite full so I don’t know how it would have been possible to get a seat in WTP, I suspect that as I was on really cheap economy tickets booked well in advance that I was restricted to the WT only cabin.

Genius1 Sep 16, 2018 10:41 am


Originally Posted by Nimrod1965 (Post 30209807)
Last week and the week before I was on BA460/461 on 4 Class B777-200’s, I was only able to select seats in the WT cabin although WTP was being used (and mostly full on the 461 MAD-LHR). WT was not quite full so I don’t know how it would have been possible to get a seat in WTP, I suspect that as I was on really cheap economy tickets booked well in advance that I was restricted to the WT only cabin.

Do you have status? WTP is often reserved for Gold/Silver members travelling in ET.

Nimrod1965 Sep 16, 2018 10:44 am


Originally Posted by Genius1 (Post 30209815)
Do you have status? WTP is often reserved for Gold/Silver members travelling in ET.

Yes, Silver.


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