BA's move from Ataturk to the new Istanbul airport
#106
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: BA GGL, A3*G, Mucci de l'expertise des Apps
Posts: 3,362
I'm sure you are right ... but what is the money angle you refer to?
The BA top brass at IST had something of a reputation - but I'd have thought they'd have been happy as Larry to get rid of the laptop rigmarole: so I'm surprised they didn't do just that as soon as possible. I'd assumed it was somehow down to extreme caution, notwithstanding the formal guidelines promulgated by UK authorities
The BA top brass at IST had something of a reputation - but I'd have thought they'd have been happy as Larry to get rid of the laptop rigmarole: so I'm surprised they didn't do just that as soon as possible. I'd assumed it was somehow down to extreme caution, notwithstanding the formal guidelines promulgated by UK authorities
#107
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 396
Sounds like I did know, huh?
In English .
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-the...il-march-2019/
Freight is only a small of it. There are many other issues
In English .
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-the...il-march-2019/
Freight is only a small of it. There are many other issues
wouldn't it be nice if BA sent a text
#108
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Brexile in ADB
Programs: BA, TK, HHonours, Le Club, Best Western Rewards
Posts: 7,067
The UK government allowed electronics in hand luggage again IF a certain percentage of hand bags and their contents were screened for explosive residue at the gate before boarding. To do this it required additional security staff and equipment at the gate that BA were unwilling to pay to be provided.
#109
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: London. Edinburgh, Cornwall
Programs: BA GGL, British Midland Lifetime* Loser
Posts: 7,931
#110
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: BAEC Gold; Le Club Accorhotels Plat; Marriott Gold
Posts: 371
To me the fact that there will be no way to get to city other than by bus/taxi/limo is a huge issue... they advertise it like the next wonder of the world with 90mil pax going to 150mil... and yet no metro until 2020 at best and buses and taxis takes arriving passengers only to the city? Sounds like a big gridlock ending in a transport collapse....
#111
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: BAEC Gold; Le Club Accorhotels Plat; Marriott Gold
Posts: 371
By the way, I, for one, plainly scared of their yellow taxis having been in near collision trips on 2 occasions. Since then every time I travel to IST I used either a preordered transfer (cars and drivers are a bit better, but pricier) or more often use their metro system
#112
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 16,966
Given the airport is unlikely to open fully until (at least) mid-2019, a 2020 opening of the metro link wouldn't be too long to wait.....
... unless that, too, were delayed
#113
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 279
Puzzled why you should find it a huge issue. I can think of a number of airports with no rail/underground access, and with only very clunky versions of non-road access, and many more that came on tap before being linked to rail systems.
Given the airport is unlikely to open fully until (at least) mid-2019, a 2020 opening of the metro link wouldn't be too long to wait.....
... unless that, too, were delayed
Given the airport is unlikely to open fully until (at least) mid-2019, a 2020 opening of the metro link wouldn't be too long to wait.....
... unless that, too, were delayed
#114
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: London. Edinburgh, Cornwall
Programs: BA GGL, British Midland Lifetime* Loser
Posts: 7,931
Yes, if youve ever arrived at the current IST by road youd wonder how the new place will function given its remote location and temporary lack of public transport. However, a brand new and empty motorway link is one of the few things the new airport can boast as completed, so traffic isnt an issue (even if journey times are). Id be more concerned at the reports of poor flood drainage on site and the quality of the construction given the (often deadly) pressure placed on the workers to finish.
#115
Fontaine d'honneur du Flyertalk
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Morbihan, France
Programs: Reine des Muccis de Pucci; Foreign Elitist (according to others)
Posts: 19,085
Ive seen photos of flooding at the new airport. There were pictures of buses with water up to the roofs. I have no idea whether this is all over-exaggeration or otherwise. A friend said that scientists had warned of this. Again I have no idea if this is true or not, but it is not exactly impossible that BA have no clue is that no one has a clue? Shades of Berlin- Brandt?
#116
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 16,966
Of course things would be/will be better if the new metro line were up and running (better still if ISL were also up and running ), but probably better not to wait for the metro to catch up before opening the darn thing. There again, who knows - the metro might get there first ....
#117
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: BAEC Gold; Le Club Accorhotels Plat; Marriott Gold
Posts: 371
Exactly. Unless one visited Istanbul on a few occasions and had to get to the airport (or from) on a working day, they could hardly understand how bad it could get. LITERALLY, a parking lot on a motor way.
#118
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Flatland
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold 1MM, BA Gold, UA Peon
Posts: 6,095
Puzzled why you should find it a huge issue. I can think of a number of airports with no rail/underground access, and with only very clunky versions of non-road access, and many more that came on tap before being linked to rail systems.
Given the airport is unlikely to open fully until (at least) mid-2019, a 2020 opening of the metro link wouldn't be too long to wait.....
... unless that, too, were delayed
Given the airport is unlikely to open fully until (at least) mid-2019, a 2020 opening of the metro link wouldn't be too long to wait.....
... unless that, too, were delayed
Other airports may not have rail links, but they never had rail links so the roads are sufficient to connect the airport (and people have developed ways to deal with the problems). Atatrk being replaced by the new airport now would be effectively removing a rail link, and that is the problem.
#120
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,074
New Istanbul Airport
It finally appears a date has been set for Operations to commence at the new Istanbul Airport. NOTE Nothing official from BA regarding the move as yet and this info has only been released by the Turkish state today.
so from March 3rd latest it appears all ops are from the new facility.
1) Airport Transfer Process (45 hours) from LTBA to LTFM
The transfer period from Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) to Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will commence at 01 March 2019 00:00 UTC and end at 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC (See Airport Transfer Chart).
During the transfer period (45 hours); Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) and Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will only be available for base carriers’ flights and both Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) and Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will be operating with a common reduced capacity per hour as stated below:
- LTBA and LTFM common 35 arrivals per hour,
- LTBA and LTFM common 35 departures per hour,
- LTBA and LTFM arrival/departure total common capacity per hour 70 will be applied.
(See Airport Transfer Chart Note 2).
2) Use of Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) After 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC
As from 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC, LTBA will be closed to scheduled/unscheduled domestic and international commercial passenger flights and will only be available for cargo, maintenance/technical, general aviation, air taxi, business flights, for state aircraft and other flights permitted by Authority.
The transfer period from Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) to Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will commence at 01 March 2019 00:00 UTC and end at 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC (See Airport Transfer Chart).
During the transfer period (45 hours); Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) and Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will only be available for base carriers’ flights and both Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) and Istanbul Airport (LTFM) will be operating with a common reduced capacity per hour as stated below:
- LTBA and LTFM common 35 arrivals per hour,
- LTBA and LTFM common 35 departures per hour,
- LTBA and LTFM arrival/departure total common capacity per hour 70 will be applied.
(See Airport Transfer Chart Note 2).
2) Use of Istanbul Atatrk Airport (LTBA) After 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC
As from 02 March 2019 21:00 UTC, LTBA will be closed to scheduled/unscheduled domestic and international commercial passenger flights and will only be available for cargo, maintenance/technical, general aviation, air taxi, business flights, for state aircraft and other flights permitted by Authority.