Changes to BA flight numbers for IB services LHR-MAD
#46
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Also, they claim (in the FAQ document) that this will allow them to have Spanish speaking staff both in the check-in desks and at the gate (I assume this was not the case with BA). Which could be quite helpful as a big chunck of the passengers will not speak very fluent English, so if there is a problem it would be much easy to fix.
Possibly between the 11:35 and 15:50 departures? If so, hopefully status/J pax can check-in more than 2h/2h30 before departure, otherwise I don't see why there would be an agent there between 10:50 and 13:20. Unless they've been instructed not to allow check-in and are strictly there for ticketing...
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Possibly between the 11:35 and 15:50 departures? If so, hopefully status/J pax can check-in more than 2h/2h30 before departure, otherwise I don't see why there would be an agent there between 10:50 and 13:20. Unless they've been instructed not to allow check-in and are strictly there for ticketing...
#48
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Sh*tshow
I just experienced the sh*tshow this whole process is.
IB ticket ABZ-LHR-MAD (HBO)
ABZ-LHR BA metal
LHR-MAD IB metal
I wasn't allowed to check in online on the second flight
The BA agent at ABZ wasn't able to check me in even after even offloading me from the first flight. I was sent to the connection desk in LHR.
The BA agent in LHR T5 very appologeticly sent me outside to departures desk E.
I had to get out, go to the desks, luckily as OWS I was able to use de business desk, check in there and then clear security again.
I had originally 2h 30 min of connecting time. After a delay on arrivals as usual on LHR I got under 2h, arriving to the check in with 1h and 20 min to spare.
After clearing south security using priority I got to the lounge and the boarding pass issued by IB wasn't compatible and the gate lady needed to check my silver status.
I got time to drink a glass of water and my gate was already on the screens... And of course is C56...
I'm happy to have more spanish speakers at LHR... But that wouldn't help me if I have checked bags, or duty free or a smaller connection window...
BA IT & IB IT
As we say in Spain:
Cuando se juntan el hambre y las ganas de comer...
IB ticket ABZ-LHR-MAD (HBO)
ABZ-LHR BA metal
LHR-MAD IB metal
I wasn't allowed to check in online on the second flight
The BA agent at ABZ wasn't able to check me in even after even offloading me from the first flight. I was sent to the connection desk in LHR.
The BA agent in LHR T5 very appologeticly sent me outside to departures desk E.
I had to get out, go to the desks, luckily as OWS I was able to use de business desk, check in there and then clear security again.
I had originally 2h 30 min of connecting time. After a delay on arrivals as usual on LHR I got under 2h, arriving to the check in with 1h and 20 min to spare.
After clearing south security using priority I got to the lounge and the boarding pass issued by IB wasn't compatible and the gate lady needed to check my silver status.
I got time to drink a glass of water and my gate was already on the screens... And of course is C56...
I'm happy to have more spanish speakers at LHR... But that wouldn't help me if I have checked bags, or duty free or a smaller connection window...
BA IT & IB IT
As we say in Spain:
Cuando se juntan el hambre y las ganas de comer...
#49
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I just experienced the sh*tshow this whole process is.
IB ticket ABZ-LHR-MAD (HBO)
ABZ-LHR BA metal
LHR-MAD IB metal
I wasn't allowed to check in online on the second flight
The BA agent at ABZ wasn't able to check me in even after even offloading me from the first flight. I was sent to the connection desk in LHR.
The BA agent in LHR T5 very appologeticly sent me outside to departures desk E.
I had to get out, go to the desks, luckily as OWS I was able to use de business desk, check in there and then clear security again.
I had originally 2h 30 min of connecting time. After a delay on arrivals as usual on LHR I got under 2h, arriving to the check in with 1h and 20 min to spare.
After clearing south security using priority I got to the lounge and the boarding pass issued by IB wasn't compatible and the gate lady needed to check my silver status.
I got time to drink a glass of water and my gate was already on the screens... And of course is C56...
I'm happy to have more spanish speakers at LHR... But that wouldn't help me if I have checked bags, or duty free or a smaller connection window...
BA IT & IB IT
As we say in Spain:
Cuando se juntan el hambre y las ganas de comer...
IB ticket ABZ-LHR-MAD (HBO)
ABZ-LHR BA metal
LHR-MAD IB metal
I wasn't allowed to check in online on the second flight
The BA agent at ABZ wasn't able to check me in even after even offloading me from the first flight. I was sent to the connection desk in LHR.
The BA agent in LHR T5 very appologeticly sent me outside to departures desk E.
I had to get out, go to the desks, luckily as OWS I was able to use de business desk, check in there and then clear security again.
I had originally 2h 30 min of connecting time. After a delay on arrivals as usual on LHR I got under 2h, arriving to the check in with 1h and 20 min to spare.
After clearing south security using priority I got to the lounge and the boarding pass issued by IB wasn't compatible and the gate lady needed to check my silver status.
I got time to drink a glass of water and my gate was already on the screens... And of course is C56...
I'm happy to have more spanish speakers at LHR... But that wouldn't help me if I have checked bags, or duty free or a smaller connection window...
BA IT & IB IT
As we say in Spain:
Cuando se juntan el hambre y las ganas de comer...
As for the lounge entry, the card details should come up on scanning the boarding pass but as it is now a non-BA flight, few agents in T5 would have used this option previously when scanning customers into the lounge. In T3, the agents are more familiar with this and therefore know what to look for.
The team working on IB are really enjoying this and it's been a great atmosphere this week despite it being a completely new system that they are getting familiar with.
#52
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Indeed, and those desks have been shunted to A. This further reduces BA's capacity to deal with mass irrops, but the SOP for that has long been "call the contact centre". That said a lot of ticketing can now be done by non specialists (including AUPs) due to IT changes. Zone E has been somewhat underutilised for quite some time.
#53
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Well a bizarre boarding experience this morning.
Half empty A319.
Gold in 1A.
They try to gate check my small (obviously compliant) wheelie. Because the flight was “very full”.
Obviously upon boarding there was oodles of bin space for everyone.
2F then boards and complains of the same thing!
Great way to annoy your premium passengers!
Half empty A319.
Gold in 1A.
They try to gate check my small (obviously compliant) wheelie. Because the flight was “very full”.
Obviously upon boarding there was oodles of bin space for everyone.
2F then boards and complains of the same thing!
Great way to annoy your premium passengers!
#55
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Well a bizarre boarding experience this morning.
Half empty A319.
Gold in 1A.
They try to gate check my small (obviously compliant) wheelie. Because the flight was “very full”.
Obviously upon boarding there was oodles of bin space for everyone.
2F then boards and complains of the same thing!
Great way to annoy your premium passengers!
Half empty A319.
Gold in 1A.
They try to gate check my small (obviously compliant) wheelie. Because the flight was “very full”.
Obviously upon boarding there was oodles of bin space for everyone.
2F then boards and complains of the same thing!
Great way to annoy your premium passengers!
#56
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The correct procedure on IB is indeed to go hold onto some hand baggage when passengers board. However, even if a "Priority" group passenger showed up towards the end of boarding, their bag should not be gate-checked. The agent is supposed to look at the boarding pass first and wave you through if you are in that group.
#57
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The correct procedure on IB is indeed to go hold onto some hand baggage when passengers board. However, even if a "Priority" group passenger showed up towards the end of boarding, their bag should not be gate-checked. The agent is supposed to look at the boarding pass first and wave you through if you are in that group.
#58
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Yeah that didn't happen for me or the 40+ so other passengers who were there before boarding started - hopefully the process will get better as this was Iberia staff at T5 doing the boarding and maybe they will switch to the group system used by BA which after some teething issues is working better now.
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. On all occasions, they board Group 1, telling all of them to gate check their bags. When asking why I was told to allow all the other passengers space for their bags. I'm not an expert in airline operations, but the process of penalising premium passengers doesn't seem good customer service?
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There are no IB staff boarding these flights, these are BA staff trained to handle IB. The boarding process is based on IB requirements, Priority, group A/1/2/3. Group A being families with young children/special assistance, group 1 those seated at rear of aircraft, group 2 those in middle and group 3 at front of economy.
That would make sense, my BA issued boarding pass said Group 1 (I have OWE status) but from what you've just said that's actually incorrect and it should have something else printed on it