Same Day Change - Avios ticket
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Same Day Change - Avios ticket
Just called in to use the SDC for my business avios flight today and was told that “we have never heard of SDC, and while this may be possible on a cash ticket, we are not trained for cash bookings and it certainly doesn’t exist for reward bookings”
just as a sanity check, is this true? Any reason why?
can anyone report of success/failure of asking for the SDC at the check in desk on a reward booking - there shud be space on the flight I want to go on as Ba is still selling (cash) tickets for this.
Its not a biggie if not, would just like to take a flight 90 minus earlier back to London today - from BA463 to BA461...
especially after on my outbound flight to Madrid yesterday I got the 777 and was seated in the first cabin - the 461 today would be 777 again while 463 is 321...
thanks for reporting on any success stories of this
just as a sanity check, is this true? Any reason why?
can anyone report of success/failure of asking for the SDC at the check in desk on a reward booking - there shud be space on the flight I want to go on as Ba is still selling (cash) tickets for this.
Its not a biggie if not, would just like to take a flight 90 minus earlier back to London today - from BA463 to BA461...
especially after on my outbound flight to Madrid yesterday I got the 777 and was seated in the first cabin - the 461 today would be 777 again while 463 is 321...
thanks for reporting on any success stories of this
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There is no same day free change on award tickets in any case. In fact, theoretically, you cannot change them less than 24hrs before departure (even though exceptions can be made) so in fact it should even be impossible when there are award seats if agent sticks to the rule. Same day flight change is not an attribute of C as a cabin, not even of short haul C: if you book a cash C ticket with a connection for instance, there will be no same day change. It is, instead, an attribute of a class of fares (just like economy flex) which has no bearing on the conditions of award tickets.
success changing at the counter (outside of irrops) will i suspect be close to 0 as they are not supposed to touch award bookings and should instruct you to call BAEC. I think it's a better use of your time to relax in the lounge than to queue almost certainly for nothing.
success changing at the counter (outside of irrops) will i suspect be close to 0 as they are not supposed to touch award bookings and should instruct you to call BAEC. I think it's a better use of your time to relax in the lounge than to queue almost certainly for nothing.
Last edited by orbitmic; Aug 19, 2018 at 2:12 pm
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The rules on changes to Avios bookings haven't changed recently, whereas SDC is relatively new. What you could have done, for £35 if not GGL or Premier, is switched service before T-24, but not after. Or made another booking if that was a viable use of resources. Within 24 hours the original booking is fairly inflexible.
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At LHR, unlikely. Elsewhere, quite possible. Also ask in the lounge if there is a BA-run lounge.
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Thanks guys,
so far no luck...
even just went to the wrong “part” of the terminal. Was let through security and everything fine but after I couldn’t find the lounge and asked someone told me I was wrong... so making my way to the right part of this terminal now... then last chance will to ask in the lounge and see what they say...
interestingly the ticketing desk didn’t even want to quote me a price when I said I would be willing to pay cash for the change... he didn’t even quote me the full fare new ticket price. Just said “not possible”.
so far no luck...
even just went to the wrong “part” of the terminal. Was let through security and everything fine but after I couldn’t find the lounge and asked someone told me I was wrong... so making my way to the right part of this terminal now... then last chance will to ask in the lounge and see what they say...
interestingly the ticketing desk didn’t even want to quote me a price when I said I would be willing to pay cash for the change... he didn’t even quote me the full fare new ticket price. Just said “not possible”.
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Yes! My guess is that CE customers had become loudly unhappy that ET customers paying much lower fares would be allowed same day changes that they were refused without a fee. Given the importance of flexibility to the corporate market, I think BA had to fix that quickly or see the rare companies which still book short haul CE massively downbuy!
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That makes a lot of sense and I did think it was slightly odd that cheaper ET tickets had this greater level of flexibility but not more expensive CE tickets. That's something I might well be able to make use of on occasion in future.
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The lounge will say no too.
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I keep finding the fact that Avios RFS have the same checked baggage allowance as the Plus fares but no SDC very confusing! I can never remember if I booked the plus fare, basic or a RFS and have been caught out before.
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If there is a baggage allowance but no TPs or Avios then it's an RFS / redemption. No SDC.
Baggage allowance and tier points = Plus fare and SDC.
The oddity in this is UuA, since it will come up with TPs and Avios (which may or may not be accurate), baggage allowance, but no SDC. However in that specific example, the selling class - visible in "More flight information" - will be U.
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Cheers for that clarification. I actually never opened the "more flight information" dialogue..
Would you also happen to know if there is SDC when I accept a (cash) POUG on an Avios booking? I never used to get these but, in recent months, they appear quite frequently and I sometimes accept them on the return to LHR for a bit of a treat. SDC would make those even more compelling.
Would you also happen to know if there is SDC when I accept a (cash) POUG on an Avios booking? I never used to get these but, in recent months, they appear quite frequently and I sometimes accept them on the return to LHR for a bit of a treat. SDC would make those even more compelling.
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Would you also happen to know if there is SDC when I accept a (cash) POUG on an Avios booking? I never used to get these but, in recent months, they appear quite frequently and I sometimes accept them on the return to LHR for a bit of a treat. SDC would make those even more compelling.