Flying to Moscow - A321 or 787 in Club...
Aug 17, 2018, 7:20 am
#2
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
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787 is the morning day flight, so:
1. Better timings (OK, you lose a full day in Moscow but you are more relaxed);
2. Less chance of being subbed for a short-haul Airbus;
3. Newer cabin and a bigger, quieter plane;
4. Better IFE?
5. Theoretical chance of an op-up to F.
Cons:
1. No single/"throne" seats.
2. The very short overnight is too short for much (any) sleep, but it's the only way to leave the office in London on time and get to Moscow for the next morning.
3. 787's early take-off means that the main meal served is breakfast, which is never a good choice.
1. Better timings (OK, you lose a full day in Moscow but you are more relaxed);
2. Less chance of being subbed for a short-haul Airbus;
3. Newer cabin and a bigger, quieter plane;
4. Better IFE?
5. Theoretical chance of an op-up to F.
Cons:
1. No single/"throne" seats.
2. The very short overnight is too short for much (any) sleep, but it's the only way to leave the office in London on time and get to Moscow for the next morning.
3. 787's early take-off means that the main meal served is breakfast, which is never a good choice.
Aug 17, 2018, 7:27 am
#3
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold
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Aug 17, 2018, 8:23 am
#5
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: GGLfL
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B787
Advantages - experienced crew, often switched to a B777 with WifI, full CW service (although only a breakfast on the outbound), generally cheaper (as R/I fare buckets left), ability to upgrade with UuA or AUP to F, often paid F is available for less than CW on the A321
Disadvantages - stupid flights times, early 5am wake-up for the outbound, lose half a work day on the return
A321
Advantages - good flight times, don't have to get up at 5am for the outbound, can leave Paveletsskaya on the 1630 train for the return, seat (if you like the inflatable, hissy seat), proper lunch on the outbound
Disadvantages - the seat (if like me, you hate the inflatable, hissy seat), no upgrade to F, usually more expensive in CW
Advantages - experienced crew, often switched to a B777 with WifI, full CW service (although only a breakfast on the outbound), generally cheaper (as R/I fare buckets left), ability to upgrade with UuA or AUP to F, often paid F is available for less than CW on the A321
Disadvantages - stupid flights times, early 5am wake-up for the outbound, lose half a work day on the return
A321
Advantages - good flight times, don't have to get up at 5am for the outbound, can leave Paveletsskaya on the 1630 train for the return, seat (if you like the inflatable, hissy seat), proper lunch on the outbound
Disadvantages - the seat (if like me, you hate the inflatable, hissy seat), no upgrade to F, usually more expensive in CW
Aug 17, 2018, 4:36 pm
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Aug 17, 2018, 10:57 pm
#10
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC
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I wonder if it has changed after the world cup?
Recently heard (on FT) that those with fan IDs could visit visa free until the end of Dec 2018!
(and yes 787)
Last edited by DeathSlam; Aug 17, 2018 at 11:13 pm
Aug 18, 2018, 1:49 am
#11
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
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OP, are you talking about the BA235 1055 A321 flight, rather than the short overnighter mentioned upthread?
If so I’d prefer this over the earlier 787. No god awful early wake up and no god awful breakfast in lieu of a four-course lunch.
The 787 return timings are good.
In fact I’m doing It this way next month!
If so I’d prefer this over the earlier 787. No god awful early wake up and no god awful breakfast in lieu of a four-course lunch.
The 787 return timings are good.
In fact I’m doing It this way next month!
Aug 18, 2018, 2:19 am
#12
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: BA Gold, A3 Gold
Posts: 163
Even the BA233/2 rotation seems to get the 321 on some days in the winter timetable. My BA233 789 booking was swapped to a 321 some time ago. I did not mind too much, as 1A was still free.
I'd decide on schedule if you can reserve a throne seat on the 321. Otherwise I'd try to go with the 789 flights.
I'd decide on schedule if you can reserve a throne seat on the 321. Otherwise I'd try to go with the 789 flights.
Aug 18, 2018, 10:40 am
#13
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Qatar, Turkish, Aeroflot
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Only been to Russia a few times but I find it very like England. Imagine you were a Russian who couldn't speak a word of English and arrived at Leeds train Station in 1970. You would receive blank stares. Can't blame them. Moscow in general is not a place where everyone everywhere knows English in an attempt to wheedle $/£ out of you (except tourist hotspots where it is). To most Russians you are an inconvenient aberration who doesn't know the rules. With adequate prep it's not a problem, but I'd say it's really worth doing some homework rather than trying to 'wing it'.
I wonder if it has changed after the world cup?
Recently heard (on FT) that those with fan IDs could visit visa free until the end of Dec 2018!
(and yes 787)
I wonder if it has changed after the world cup?
Recently heard (on FT) that those with fan IDs could visit visa free until the end of Dec 2018!
(and yes 787)
Still....it can be a bit intimidating for those who don't like things to be *too* different! But for me, I love the place!
Aug 18, 2018, 1:06 pm
#14
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 77
Didn't a 787 go tech at DME the other week and ended up being cancelled. Not a great experience id have though with russian visa restrictions.
Has anyone been recently and noticed and differences to British visitors since the whole novichok incidents?
Has anyone been recently and noticed and differences to British visitors since the whole novichok incidents?
Aug 18, 2018, 1:36 pm
#15
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: BA Gold, A3 Gold
Posts: 163
A 789 flying BA 233 had a technical problem somewhere over Latvia and subsequently returned to LHR. Presumably BA wanted to avoid having their aircraft stuck in DME.