Unnecessary daggers thrown...
#121
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Air Commodore "Cyclops" Brown RAF (RIP) wore an eye patch, which used to ride up on more 'festive' occasions. He had a glass eye with an RAF roundel for such events! Great Boss
C B Brown
But I digress ,,, sorry!
C B Brown
But I digress ,,, sorry!
#122
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People are just entitled jerks. My last LAX-LHR flight, I boarded to find a woman in my seat. I started to point out that she was in my seat, and she quickly cut me off and said, "this is my seat now. I have to be next to my children. You need to go sit in my seat." Mind, her "children" looked to be teenagers who didn't need their mother with them, and she preboarded during the "people with children" portion of boarding, so I suppose she was planning this hostile seat takeover all along. I was completely taken aback and didn't want to cause a fuss, but then was unhappily seated next to the galley. Next time, I doubt I'll be so charitable.
#123
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People are just entitled jerks. My last LAX-LHR flight, I boarded to find a woman in my seat. I started to point out that she was in my seat, and she quickly cut me off and said, "this is my seat now. I have to be next to my children. You need to go sit in my seat." Mind, her "children" looked to be teenagers who didn't need their mother with them, and she preboarded during the "people with children" portion of boarding, so I suppose she was planning this hostile seat takeover all along. I was completely taken aback and didn't want to cause a fuss, but then was unhappily seated next to the galley. Next time, I doubt I'll be so charitable.
#125
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On my recent OTP-PHX run, I was sat in 1A, and one of my travelling companions was in 1D. The chap in 1C, asks me to move to 4C, so that his wife could sit with him. I politely declined, despite daggers, and suggested that whoever was in 4A might swap with him. It turns out 4A was vacant (CC told me he knew that), and he just wanted them both in the front row..
He spent the flight in 4A, and to rub salt into his wounds, my companion moved to 1C so that we could chat through the flight.......
He spent the flight in 4A, and to rub salt into his wounds, my companion moved to 1C so that we could chat through the flight.......
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#127
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These stories are quite unbelievable to hear. I often travel in CE with my two small kids(2 and 4yrs old). Fortunately, we have never had to ask to swop, as I have always found other flyers very quick to offer up seats if needed.
Its revolting how some parents flying with children, use them as an excuse and have a sense of entitlement in the cabin.
Its revolting how some parents flying with children, use them as an excuse and have a sense of entitlement in the cabin.
#128
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If the circumstances for seat movong are explained, I am much more amenable to moving.
Maybe 20 to 25 years ago on NorthWest in J LGW-DTW in a 2-2-2 config, I was asked by crew if I’d mind moving from my window to an aisle, and I chose to decline, but no reason was given for the request. Another pax across the other side of the cabin also at a window seat was also asked, and he declined too.
Next thing that happens a couple of minutes later, I find myself sat next to a two year old and the other pax across the cabin is sat next to a three year old, with their parents taking up a pair in the middle section. At that point I immediately got up and offered my seat to the parents, allowing them to sit with their kids, which was graciously accepted.
Rather than thanking me, I then received an unnecessarily snotty comment from the cabin crew member asking why I didn’t move before. I made it clear to them that had she explained the situation beforehand I would have been happy to oblige.
Maybe 20 to 25 years ago on NorthWest in J LGW-DTW in a 2-2-2 config, I was asked by crew if I’d mind moving from my window to an aisle, and I chose to decline, but no reason was given for the request. Another pax across the other side of the cabin also at a window seat was also asked, and he declined too.
Next thing that happens a couple of minutes later, I find myself sat next to a two year old and the other pax across the cabin is sat next to a three year old, with their parents taking up a pair in the middle section. At that point I immediately got up and offered my seat to the parents, allowing them to sit with their kids, which was graciously accepted.
Rather than thanking me, I then received an unnecessarily snotty comment from the cabin crew member asking why I didn’t move before. I made it clear to them that had she explained the situation beforehand I would have been happy to oblige.
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I'm amenable to a swap for an equal seat but certainly won't take a lesser one. In the OP's situation once I'd refused and the husband kept making snide remarks I'd have hit the call button every time he showed up to talk to his wife. If you're having any type of a dispute with another passenger get the cabin crew involved that way if matters escalate you can point to the fact you complained about the other person's behavior.
#130
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People are just entitled jerks. My last LAX-LHR flight, I boarded to find a woman in my seat. I started to point out that she was in my seat, and she quickly cut me off and said, "this is my seat now. I have to be next to my children. You need to go sit in my seat." Mind, her "children" looked to be teenagers who didn't need their mother with them, and she preboarded during the "people with children" portion of boarding, so I suppose she was planning this hostile seat takeover all along. I was completely taken aback and didn't want to cause a fuss, but then was unhappily seated next to the galley. Next time, I doubt I'll be so charitable.
#131
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Having gained much mirth from reading all the responses( and naturally still feeling the empathy I did for the OP previously) I have decided to allow the well known 'am-dram' side of pre script how I deal with said situation should I come across it. I feel going full Basil Fawlty on people acting in such a manner should work well. Obviously i'll play it on the fly but imagine my response to be along the lines of.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
#132
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Having gained much mirth from reading all the responses( and naturally still feeling the empathy I did for the OP previously) I have decided to allow the well known 'am-dram' side of pre script how I deal with said situation should I come across it. I feel going full Basil Fawlty on people acting in such a manner should work well. Obviously i'll play it on the fly but imagine my response to be along the lines of.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
Twice I have found myself in the position of someone in my seat, UD on BA and an IB flight. CC sorted it no problem, that's the thing to do really in my view.
#133
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Having gained much mirth from reading all the responses( and naturally still feeling the empathy I did for the OP previously) I have decided to allow the well known 'am-dram' side of pre script how I deal with said situation should I come across it. I feel going full Basil Fawlty on people acting in such a manner should work well. Obviously i'll play it on the fly but imagine my response to be along the lines of.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
"Me, move for you, a much vaulted Gold Card Holder who can book their seats for free? Really, me, how generous of you to allow me to serve you in such a manner. your Excellencies. How exquisitely gracious of you! Is there anything else either you may need; An arm maybe, possibly a leg, I mean my left ones a bit buggered anyway so you might as well have use of it. Could I maybe give you a kidney whilst I'm at it, Sam( Cybil), Sam I'm moving dear. These lovely people who couldn't get their own act together have offered to allow me to help them and they're GOLD, GOLDDDDDD Samantha. My darling this truly is a wonderful day."
- - Turn back to face said cretins - -
"I'm sorry what was it you were asking again"?
Such dramatic responses would obviously be saved for specific cases such as the OP's. Yes it's childish petulant behaviour but if two grown adults have to resort to being passive aggressive .........s because they didnt get their own way then i'm inclined to just lean right into it. I'm kind of hoping it happens now tbh.
If I decide not to swap the first answer is, "No thank-you, I will remain in this seat."
If asked again the second answer is, "No, I will remain in this seat. I have told you that twice. All that follows from here is me telling you to (expletive deleted) off."
#134
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Too much talk.
If I decide not to swap the first answer is, "No thank-you, I will remain in this seat."
If asked again the second answer is, "No, I will remain in this seat. I have told you that twice. All that follows from here is me telling you to (expletive deleted) off."
If I decide not to swap the first answer is, "No thank-you, I will remain in this seat."
If asked again the second answer is, "No, I will remain in this seat. I have told you that twice. All that follows from here is me telling you to (expletive deleted) off."
you tell somebody once. If they choose to ignore you and ask again, it’s their problem.
#135
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Too much talk.
If I decide not to swap the first answer is, "No thank-you, I will remain in this seat."
If asked again the second answer is, "No, I will remain in this seat. I have told you that twice. All that follows from here is me telling you to (expletive deleted) off."
If I decide not to swap the first answer is, "No thank-you, I will remain in this seat."
If asked again the second answer is, "No, I will remain in this seat. I have told you that twice. All that follows from here is me telling you to (expletive deleted) off."