Passport renewed after first leg of itinerary has been flown
Jul 30, 2018, 10:26 am
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But on the assumption that the reason that CKBA came back to the UK to renew their passport was because it was a UK passport, UK immigration wouldn't care if you entered on an old UK passport and departed on a new UK passport. Most people with a UK passport will be doing that after a renewal.
Jul 30, 2018, 11:14 am
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I get maxi passports (in South Africa) which have 36 instead of 24 pages and travel a moderate (by Ft terms) amount (but virtually all international) and have just received my 3rd passport in 7 years.
Problem for me is lots of full page sticker visas taking up half the passport. I got in about 150 stamps in my last one (+8 or 9 full page visas)
Problem for me is lots of full page sticker visas taking up half the passport. I got in about 150 stamps in my last one (+8 or 9 full page visas)
Obviously had to pay double, but overall it was so painless and fast!
Jul 30, 2018, 11:59 am
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Jul 30, 2018, 12:03 pm
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But on the assumption that the reason that CKBA came back to the UK to renew their passport was because it was a UK passport, UK immigration wouldn't care if you entered on an old UK passport and departed on a new UK passport. Most people with a UK passport will be doing that after a renewal.
Jul 30, 2018, 12:04 pm
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You don't need to provide any passport details until you check in, which can be as late as 1 hour before the flight departs, and it is conceivable (though obviously not sensible) that someone could even have never had a passport and receive their first passport a few hours just before they head to the airport...
There's no obligation to update your new passport number on your profile either, as when you check in with your new passport, the airline agent will swipe it and this updates it on the system.
If you are a British citizen even if the wrong passport information is entered, you can't be denied entry to the UK.
If you had a HK passport and it was entered on your BA profile, this would be fine too since the HK passport allows visa-free entry to the UK for 6 months, provided you have a ticket departing the UK. Yet it doesn't mean you must use the HK passport to enter the UK, if you also have an EU/EEA passport (including British) on you then it wouldn't make sense to not use it.
Conversely many people provide a UK passport on check-in for flights to HKG, but use their HKID cards to enter Hong Kong, since British citizens get 180 days visa-free in HK this is fine too (and in Europe nobody seems to care about return tickets). This is despite the British passport not being valid in the eyes of the People's Republic of China, if they consider that person one of their citizens. (But you can also be a foreign permanent resident of HK.)
The only countries it kind of matters for at the moment are, as already mentioned, Australia, the US and Canada (and apparently South Africa but I don't know about that). This is because your passport, visa, and/or ETA/eVisitor/ESTA/eTA is checked at the time of check in and the relevant authority will confirm to the airline whether you are OK to board. It may also happen with the EU/Schengen Area when ETIAS is launched, which may happen in 2-3 years. Nonetheless, US citizens have been able to get ESTAs on non-US passports and fly to the US, even when ESTAs shouldn't really be issued to US citizens.
Jul 30, 2018, 12:28 pm
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In some countries they do. Korea for one Japan for another...
Jul 30, 2018, 1:58 pm
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Except when flying to the EU I always leave the UK on my Australian passport and fly back on my UK passport. It doesn't cause issues. In the few countries where arrival and departure is properly tied together I will go out of immigration on my Australian passport, but usually fly on one of my UK ones.
I bet I throw off the UK attempt at working out immigration stats, but leaving many times a year but never arriving on one passport and arriving but rarely leaving on two others.
The reason I travel like this is I always get any visa or esta in my Australian passport so I don't confuse which UK one has the visa.
I bet I throw off the UK attempt at working out immigration stats, but leaving many times a year but never arriving on one passport and arriving but rarely leaving on two others.
The reason I travel like this is I always get any visa or esta in my Australian passport so I don't confuse which UK one has the visa.
Jul 30, 2018, 2:33 pm
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Jul 30, 2018, 2:36 pm
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I get maxi passports (in South Africa) which have 36 instead of 24 pages and travel a moderate (by Ft terms) amount (but virtually all international) and have just received my 3rd passport in 7 years.
Problem for me is lots of full page sticker visas taking up half the passport. I got in about 150 stamps in my last one (+8 or 9 full page visas)
Problem for me is lots of full page sticker visas taking up half the passport. I got in about 150 stamps in my last one (+8 or 9 full page visas)
Jul 30, 2018, 3:26 pm
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Don't even mention Swedish passports...
I get 34 pages of which a 4 are filled with text and cannot be used. So it is 30 actual usable pages and we cannot get extra thick passports (used to be possible to get double thickness), plus they are only valid for 5 years (so in effect 4.5 years because of entry rules to many countries).
I fill mine up after max 2 years without any visas. Periods I have visa intense travel I fill one up in a year if I don't use multiple passports (sometimes the case).
I get 34 pages of which a 4 are filled with text and cannot be used. So it is 30 actual usable pages and we cannot get extra thick passports (used to be possible to get double thickness), plus they are only valid for 5 years (so in effect 4.5 years because of entry rules to many countries).
I fill mine up after max 2 years without any visas. Periods I have visa intense travel I fill one up in a year if I don't use multiple passports (sometimes the case).
Jul 31, 2018, 1:06 am
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You don't book a flight "on a passport number".
You don't need to provide any passport details until you check in, which can be as late as 1 hour before the flight departs, and it is conceivable (though obviously not sensible) that someone could even have never had a passport and receive their first passport a few hours just before they head to the airport...
There's no obligation to update your new passport number on your profile either, as when you check in with your new passport, the airline agent will swipe it and this updates it on the system.
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You don't need to provide any passport details until you check in, which can be as late as 1 hour before the flight departs, and it is conceivable (though obviously not sensible) that someone could even have never had a passport and receive their first passport a few hours just before they head to the airport...
There's no obligation to update your new passport number on your profile either, as when you check in with your new passport, the airline agent will swipe it and this updates it on the system.
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Twice it it has happened now where my company book my flights through our corporate TA. They used an expired passport number that they had on file when booking the flights. When I received the flight booking, I went to MMB and changed the APIS to the passport I would be using, added my BAEC number and changed the contact details to the same that are saved in my profile.
First occasion when I called BAEC to see if I could get a seat in the WTP section of a 2 Class flight operated on a 777 where WTP was being used for economy. Went through all of the standard security questions then finally asked me the passport number that the flight was booked with. I gave the one that I was travelling on and was denied any further assistance as the details I had given was incorrect and had no idea what old passport details had been submitted by the CTA. Tried to explain to the agent but she was having none of it. Telephone call ended. Fortunately got the WTP seat at check in. (Indian Call Centre)
Second occasion was on my recent return from DME when our flight was cancelled due to a technical fault. During the shambles of the day, I called BA to get my LHR-GLA flight rebooked whilst waiting in the queue to get re-ticketed for the later DME-LHR flight. Went through the security questions until the end when the agent asked for the passport number the flights were booked with. This time, the agent was UK based and with me in near meltdown mode explained the process in which the flights were booked. He took pity on the situation and made the required rebooking - everything sorted. (UK Call Centre)
I highlighted this this issue with my company so hopefully shouldn’t happen again but was very frustrating at the time.
My advice would be to make sure you have access to old passport details if you have to change to a new one part way through a booking and find yourself having to call BA for anything related to that booking.
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Jul 31, 2018, 4:01 pm
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The only countries it kind of matters for at the moment are, as already mentioned, Australia, the US and Canada (and apparently South Africa but I don't know about that). This is because your passport, visa, and/or ETA/eVisitor/ESTA/eTA is checked at the time of check in and the relevant authority will confirm to the airline whether you are OK to board. It may also happen with the EU/Schengen Area when ETIAS is launched, which may happen in 2-3 years. Nonetheless, US citizens have been able to get ESTAs on non-US passports and fly to the US, even when ESTAs shouldn't really be issued to US citizens.
Qatar and Bahrain also use APP, but a PNR isnt required to have the passport number flying to BAH or DOH.