Farewell 767s. Thanks for the memories
Aug 12, 2018, 3:00 pm
#46
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My flight to LCA on 24 November has also changed to a 767. I now understand that that will be one of the very last flights to which I'm now really looking forward!
Am I right in thinking that row 27 (even the middle section) is decent for a long-ish flight? We're a group of 5 and have currently selected those. Never been past row 16 on them.
I also like them for their sense of space in the cabin. Most of my flights on them however have been the early (Monday-) morning run to AMS which always seems packed to the very last seat and generally unpleasant. Not the bird's fault though!
Am I right in thinking that row 27 (even the middle section) is decent for a long-ish flight? We're a group of 5 and have currently selected those. Never been past row 16 on them.
I also like them for their sense of space in the cabin. Most of my flights on them however have been the early (Monday-) morning run to AMS which always seems packed to the very last seat and generally unpleasant. Not the bird's fault though!
Aug 12, 2018, 6:19 pm
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I know exactly what you mean. I had a Yak 40 from Tashkent to Samarkand. It looked a bit aged but I thought it looked OK, three turbofan engines at the rear, so I thought this won't take long.
We were on the runway for seemingly ages, eventually became aware we had actually lifted off rather than felt it, we climbed ever so slowly for a long time. There was no feeling of being pushed back in your seat for sure. So a little over 1 hour later we safely landed at Samarkand and I thought it was much further than I thought.
Three days later, flew back to Tashkent on an Antonov 24 turboprop and I thought this might take a while longer. 45 minutes later we were there.... I was confused why the Yak 40 took so long.
So I spoke to a colleague who lived in Tashkent about this anomaly. The reply was that it was likely that only one of the three engines was used on the Yak 40 either due to spare parts shortage or fuel saving. While I find this a little hard to believe I can't deny that 1 hour and 5 minutes for a 160 mile flight was a long time for a short distance, so who knows - maybe he was bang on correct.
We were on the runway for seemingly ages, eventually became aware we had actually lifted off rather than felt it, we climbed ever so slowly for a long time. There was no feeling of being pushed back in your seat for sure. So a little over 1 hour later we safely landed at Samarkand and I thought it was much further than I thought.
Three days later, flew back to Tashkent on an Antonov 24 turboprop and I thought this might take a while longer. 45 minutes later we were there.... I was confused why the Yak 40 took so long.
So I spoke to a colleague who lived in Tashkent about this anomaly. The reply was that it was likely that only one of the three engines was used on the Yak 40 either due to spare parts shortage or fuel saving. While I find this a little hard to believe I can't deny that 1 hour and 5 minutes for a 160 mile flight was a long time for a short distance, so who knows - maybe he was bang on correct.
I was once told that the Yak 40 is affectionally called " Destroyer of fuel" by its crews.
Aug 15, 2018, 10:32 am
#50
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Well I, for one, will miss the 767
I rather think my trip to EDI yesterday is likely to be my last before the 767s are all gone. The big, comfy seats and a spacious cabin are the last reminders of how it used to be. I always enjoyed my regular trips to IST on them, but now the reduced circumstances of an A320 don't compare - most certainly for anything more than an hour or so. Sigh.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:34 am
#52
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I had mine last September on WA. Don't think I'll get on the last flight. Rumored to be 25-Nov back from LCA. No conformation yet. I'd love to get on one more either to AMS in October or something as it would be cheaper but we'll see I guess.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:41 am
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Not likely. They have a load of A350 and B787 coming next year as well as A321neo and as expected some of the 788 will end up on those longer European routes such as LCA and others. Almost 0 chance of a new type in the A330.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:47 am
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Have booked one last flight on it before it goes. The only time I could squeeze something in was Sunday 28 October when I am doing a back to back to ARN.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:52 am
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Have booked one last flight on it before it goes. The only time I could squeeze something in was Sunday 28 October when I am doing a back to back to ARN.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:55 am
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With Qatar's blockage still in, Air Asia's A330 second adventure on, and AA's intention to get rid of A333 if market condition warrant that, plus the possible downturn in world economy which may cause carriers make some painful decision on existing fleet, the market will have quite few A330 coming online as very cheap second hand. Since A320/A321 captain can be rated in A330 fairly easily, with data generated by Iberia and Level running A330s, it might happen one day. Although the possibility is still low at this moment. But the change could be higher than 0. On a scale from 0 to 100, I would say easily close to 20%.
Aug 15, 2018, 11:58 am
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Have booked one last flight on it before it goes. The only time I could squeeze something in was Sunday 28 October when I am doing a back to back to ARN.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
To end of September looks like the 767 is on MAD, AMS, ARN, FRA, EDI, FCO, LCA, and ATH.
During the last week of October the remaining 767 routes are dropped. From 6 November onwards it is just LCA, and the last 767 flights in the system currently is the LCA rotation on Sunday 25 November.
Aug 15, 2018, 12:37 pm
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