Where has all the CX Avios availability gone?
#47
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If base rate availability through Asia Miles is given, then chances are that you're just experiencing the well known BAEC availability display bug. Maybe cross check availability on aa.com as well, just for verification, but then call BA and ask.
What dates are you looking for, so that we can all see for ourselves?
What dates are you looking for, so that we can all see for ourselves?
#49
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having made a thorough search I can confirm that HKG-XXX is EXTREMELY limited compared to AM availability.
And there is no point flying to YYY to get availability YYY-HKG-XXX for a regional flight.
#50
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indeed. I think anyone who often books reward flights on CX/KA around the Far East can’t have failed to notice the steep drop off in reward availability since late last year for simple HKG-XXX or XXX-HKG flights.
#51
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Or even Swallow and that's why I mentioned only 1 data point, thankfully that date is exactly when we need to travel but I appreciate that other dates may not be so fruitful.
#52
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I thought I read somewhere on one of the blogs that due to the CX error fare over the new year CX planes are pretty full and there’s not going to be a lot of redemption flights or upgrades available for quite a while. Can’t remember the source I’m afraid but it does make sense if your J and F cabins are full at circa USD 500-750 you aren’t going to be giving thst many free seats as well.
#53
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I've searched AA as well. Most seem to think calling won't help, but I may give it a try just to confirm.
#54
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I thought I read somewhere on one of the blogs that due to the CX error fare over the new year CX planes are pretty full and there’s not going to be a lot of redemption flights or upgrades available for quite a while. Can’t remember the source I’m afraid but it does make sense if your J and F cabins are full at circa USD 500-750 you aren’t going to be giving thst many free seats as well.
#55
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Flights I want have ample business class availability. Otherwise AM wouldn't be offering seats at the 25k level.
#56
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So Cathay members can book anything on OW partners reward inventory but this is not reciprocated? Doesn’t sound like a very fair alliance to me.
#57
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#58
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The world is changing and we need to change with it or be left behind. More airlines are protecting benefits for their own members and I cannot really blame them.
#59
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Also airlines can favour their own (elites in particular) by withholding availability to all, giving their own members ability to waitlist and clearing seats against waitlists (possibly preferring elites in the process)
Sub-DM elite favouring doesn't seem to happen much with MPO though.
Rather, restricting awards to Tailored and Choice will lock out partners.
Sub-DM elite favouring doesn't seem to happen much with MPO though.
Rather, restricting awards to Tailored and Choice will lock out partners.
Last edited by percysmith; Jan 12, 2019 at 7:39 pm