Where has all the CX Avios availability gone?

Old Jan 10, 19, 4:28 pm
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Most places recommend looking at redemption tickets as soon as they become available. I have found, in my limited experience, for redeeming CX using Avios, tickets are available up to 9 months ahead
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Old Jan 10, 19, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Tafflyer View Post
If base rate availability through Asia Miles is given, then chances are that you're just experiencing the well known BAEC availability display bug. Maybe cross check availability on aa.com as well, just for verification, but then call BA and ask.

What dates are you looking for, so that we can all see for ourselves?
Things have changed since Asia Miles updated their program last year. Many HKG-XXX redemptions have become unavailable to partners. If someone finds a way to work around this, it would be great!
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Old Jan 11, 19, 7:01 am
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Only 1 data point but I've just searched HKG - PVG for 29th April and am seeing plenty of availability on Cathay Dragon.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 7:06 am
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Only 1 data point but I've just searched HKG - PVG for 29th April and am seeing plenty of availability on Cathay Dragon.
One sparrow does not summer make
having made a thorough search I can confirm that HKG-XXX is EXTREMELY limited compared to AM availability.
And there is no point flying to YYY to get availability YYY-HKG-XXX for a regional flight.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by brunos View Post
One sparrow does not summer make
having made a thorough search I can confirm that HKG-XXX is EXTREMELY limited compared to AM availability.
And there is no point flying to YYY to get availability YYY-HKG-XXX for a regional flight.
indeed. I think anyone who often books reward flights on CX/KA around the Far East can’t have failed to notice the steep drop off in reward availability since late last year for simple HKG-XXX or XXX-HKG flights.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 7:13 am
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Or even Swallow and that's why I mentioned only 1 data point, thankfully that date is exactly when we need to travel but I appreciate that other dates may not be so fruitful.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 8:16 am
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I thought I read somewhere on one of the blogs that due to the CX error fare over the new year CX planes are pretty full and there’s not going to be a lot of redemption flights or upgrades available for quite a while. Can’t remember the source I’m afraid but it does make sense if your J and F cabins are full at circa USD 500-750 you aren’t going to be giving thst many free seats as well.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 10:16 pm
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indeed. I think anyone who often books reward flights on CX/KA around the Far East canít have failed to notice the steep drop off in reward availability since late last year for simple HKG-XXX or XXX-HKG flights.
It was bad last year and it's even worse now. If the AM redemption was a little cheaper (e.g., 20k) I'd probably just suck it up and transfer AMEX or MR. But 25k just feels a little too high.
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Maybe cross check availability on aa.com as well, just for verification, but then call BA and ask.
I've searched AA as well. Most seem to think calling won't help, but I may give it a try just to confirm.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by KeaneJohn View Post
I thought I read somewhere on one of the blogs that due to the CX error fare over the new year CX planes are pretty full and thereís not going to be a lot of redemption flights or upgrades available for quite a while. Canít remember the source Iím afraid but it does make sense if your J and F cabins are full at circa USD 500-750 you arenít going to be giving thst many free seats as well.
This is a separate issue.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 11:46 pm
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it does make sense if your J and F cabins are full at circa USD 500-750 you aren’t going to be giving thst many free seats as well.
That fare was Vietnam to North America. Not really relevant to BKK-HKG.

Flights I want have ample business class availability. Otherwise AM wouldn't be offering seats at the 25k level.
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Old Jan 12, 19, 12:56 am
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Things have changed since Asia Miles updated their program last year. Many HKG-XXX redemptions have become unavailable to partners. If someone finds a way to work around this, it would be great!
So Cathay members can book anything on OW partners reward inventory but this is not reciprocated? Doesnít sound like a very fair alliance to me.
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Old Jan 12, 19, 1:10 am
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So Cathay members can book anything on OW partners reward inventory but this is not reciprocated? Doesnít sound like a very fair alliance to me.
It's never fair. AA had 65k F redemptions for years when we have to fork over 105k. Plus US$120 whenever we have to cancel.
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Old Jan 12, 19, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Tafflyer View Post


So Cathay members can book anything on OW partners reward inventory but this is not reciprocated? Doesnít sound like a very fair alliance to me.
It is fair in the sense that if OW partner space is released any OW partner should be able to book it. Cathay is just not releasing as many partner awards and are holding some for their own members. They did not start this trend. I believe JAL was there before them with their tiered award pricing. SQ (*A) has done this for a long time so it is not new.

The world is changing and we need to change with it or be left behind. More airlines are protecting benefits for their own members and I cannot really blame them.
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Old Jan 12, 19, 7:16 pm
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Also airlines can favour their own (elites in particular) by withholding availability to all, giving their own members ability to waitlist and clearing seats against waitlists (possibly preferring elites in the process)

Sub-DM elite favouring doesn't seem to happen much with MPO though.
Rather, restricting awards to Tailored and Choice will lock out partners.

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Old Jan 14, 19, 4:34 am
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all i can say is
"Down with CX and QF"
it has only been when CX hired those QF Frequent flyer folks (so i heard) that the availability has gone downhill
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