Help Getting to Tampa today LGW-TPA BA2167 Cancelled
Jun 15, 2018, 8:25 am
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I would focus in the first instance on a sensible rebooking. BA/AA have a joint venture revenue-sharing agreement on these routes so there should not be any odd rebooking concerns.
Rather than calling BA, I would start by looking at the options, making a list, and then calling. Take a look at any BA/AA gateway on the East Coast as well as ORD and DFW and then connections to AA domestic onward to TPA. So long as the weather does not deteriorate, this should get OP the best possible.
Do bear in mind that J on the TATL will book into domestic F on AA, Pretty much always a standard 2-2 single aisle aircraft on AA's domestic routes to TPA.
Rather than calling BA, I would start by looking at the options, making a list, and then calling. Take a look at any BA/AA gateway on the East Coast as well as ORD and DFW and then connections to AA domestic onward to TPA. So long as the weather does not deteriorate, this should get OP the best possible.
Do bear in mind that J on the TATL will book into domestic F on AA, Pretty much always a standard 2-2 single aisle aircraft on AA's domestic routes to TPA.
Jun 15, 2018, 8:36 am
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This is cancellation of a flight ex EU so if the pax arrive with a certain delay comp. is due according to EU Reg. 261/04 - unless caused by extraordinary circumstances. It is very likely that BA will deny liability and invoke the exemption for extraordinary circumstances. I'm afraid that it will be very much uphill to get any compensation for this one. Aircraft getting struck by lightening (even in tropical areas during rainy season) is extraordinary IMO.
Jun 15, 2018, 8:44 am
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I agree with you Mikeyfly. I spend a lot of time in Florida and lightning is very common. In the summer months it's a daily occurrence around 3/4pm. I thought in Evans v Monarch (2016) a judge had ruled that lightning strikes are not an 'extraordinary circumstance'.
Jun 15, 2018, 10:40 am
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The decision of a County Court in Luton (it is even a common law country) will not impress many judges/courts in other European countries (mainly civil law countries). But anyway, good luck!
Jun 15, 2018, 11:31 am
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Judge at an EC 261 2004 hearing I was present at was happy to hear all arguments, they weren’t however impressed by the non-IAG airlines barrister’s over dramatised behaviour. My experience is plaintiffs who have done their homework need not be concerned about impressing judges. Obfuscatious behaviour is another matter altogether.
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Jun 15, 2018, 12:05 pm
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I very much doubt that anyone lied as has been suggested several times upthread. Information simply gets distorted as it passes from person to person during IRROPS.
Glad to hear it all worked out for the OPs friend. At least the flight from Miami is sub 40 mins so not much time to endure economy.
Jun 15, 2018, 6:30 pm
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And G-viit is on its way home tonight I assume with the normal passengers for todays flight from TPA-LGW fter the LGW-TPA cancellation.
On EU261 I thought it had been made clear that airlines can not use issues from planes on previous flights as excuses for cancelled or late flights. For TPA Fri the previous lightening issueon Wed would not be valid. Not sure if it would be valid for the Thur LGW-FLL cancellation either if they are trying to say weather (I do not know if they are).
Agree with other posts that rumours can be false. Unfortunately checkin staff and even those on-board do not always state the true reason or even the correct company stance on that flight. Maybe a method of defusing the situation at the time rather than trying to deflect from EU261.
On EU261 I thought it had been made clear that airlines can not use issues from planes on previous flights as excuses for cancelled or late flights. For TPA Fri the previous lightening issueon Wed would not be valid. Not sure if it would be valid for the Thur LGW-FLL cancellation either if they are trying to say weather (I do not know if they are).
Agree with other posts that rumours can be false. Unfortunately checkin staff and even those on-board do not always state the true reason or even the correct company stance on that flight. Maybe a method of defusing the situation at the time rather than trying to deflect from EU261.
Jun 16, 2018, 6:01 am
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Lightning strike and damage also need to be treated differently in interpreting things as a strike in itself does not always cause damage.
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Jun 16, 2018, 6:44 am
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That may well be true. Yet I don’t ever recall seeing many posts on here where the “distortion” goes the other way eg. “No need to get in that massive ticket desk queue Mr FTer, we know we have an obligation to you , and we’ve already booked your hotel / next available flight on a OW carrier/ arranged a credit to your credit card for our EU261 obligations ....” 😏
Jun 18, 2018, 5:29 am
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The 2166 TPA-LGW last night (Sunday 17th) was also cancelled.
My sister and her husband were booked on this. They contacted BA when they received the cancellation text (on Saturday), and were eventually rebooked on the BA2036 from MCO. They were originally offered AA via CLT but declined after it emerged that they would not be able to get bulkhead seats (her husband is 6ft 7), which they thankfully secured on the MCO flight.
The 2036 was operated by G-VIIO which has the newly "enhanced" economy cabin. My sister (who is not interested in flying / the nuances of travel whatsoever) commented unprompted that the seats were "tiny and rock hard".
My sister and her husband were booked on this. They contacted BA when they received the cancellation text (on Saturday), and were eventually rebooked on the BA2036 from MCO. They were originally offered AA via CLT but declined after it emerged that they would not be able to get bulkhead seats (her husband is 6ft 7), which they thankfully secured on the MCO flight.
The 2036 was operated by G-VIIO which has the newly "enhanced" economy cabin. My sister (who is not interested in flying / the nuances of travel whatsoever) commented unprompted that the seats were "tiny and rock hard".
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Jun 22, 2018, 2:01 pm
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