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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:37 am
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Op Up’s when both cabins are quiet

Assessing chances of a WTP to J free upgrade.

7 days out, all cabins are showing 9’s. Seat maps show 28 empties in J and 15 empty in W. Apprecaite a number won’t take seats until T-24.

So there is no need for BA to upgrade from W to J but from experience, do they something anyhow?

FWIW I’m on the LGW to LAS flight on June 19th.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:39 am
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Very rare for BA to give free upgrades unless there is a genuine operational reason that no seat is available in the booked cabin.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:40 am
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Is it 3-4-3 in economy on the map?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by kingcole974
do they something anyhow?
Yes, if you pay for it via cash or Avios.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:48 am
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Yes, if you pay for it via cash or Avios.
BA does offer op-ups gratis, it's just that nobody knows why precisely. This forum is absolutely full of people trying to work out why they didn't or didn't get an op-up. If it happens, it happens, but I wouldn't spend time trying to strategize.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:48 am
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It just won’t happen unless you wish to pay?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
It just won’t happen unless you wish to pay?
That's not quite correct! It might happen, it's just not likely.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:55 am
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Not to sound rude, but I don’t see the point in this thread

I would maintain my expectations to travel in the cabin you booked an upgrade will be a pleasant surprise

that way you won’t be disappointed

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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:59 am
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From experience no, upgrades dont happen unless you pay or BA have to move people due to overbooked cabins.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:00 am
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When you said 9s in all cabins I was thinking... can't dismiss the odds if it's something like this:

J9 C6 D4 R2 I0
W9 E5 T0
Y9 B9 H9 K6 M4 L2 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G4

But no, every single bucket has at least nine seats in it. If the Marie Celeste were a BA plane it's probably be closed to Q fares a week out.

Getting an op-up then is a lottery win.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:04 am
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BA do sometimes do so but rarely. Not "can't rely on it but I won't be surprised", not even "It happens sometimes", but "I can't remember this happening to me before anytime recently".

It seems to be mostly if they wish to impress someone, like a newly minted Gold member who looks like they shifted their allegiance recently. So it doesn't apply to most people.

Your chance of being able to get a cheap paid upgrade (either before departure via the website/app, or at the airport) is medium.

Your chance of free upgrade remains very low.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
From experience no, upgrades dont happen unless you pay or BA have to move people due to overbooked cabins.
From experience, yes, upgrades do happen (infrequently), and it's not always clear why.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by newyorklondon
From experience, yes, upgrades do happen (infrequently), and it's not always clear why.
if you don’t know why how can you say it wasn’t for OpUp reasons?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:12 am
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Correct there is always a reason, the system will not allow any upgrades unless a reason is given.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by newyorklondon
From experience, yes, upgrades do happen (infrequently), and it's not always clear why.
I agree with KARFA’s remark that they just don’t, as a rule.

Op-ups due to overbooking are common, and the prioritisation of passengers to receive those is somewhat opaque. The passenger experience is therefore that these are ‘infrequent’. (Though I remember a lucky time where I had more than ten consecutively.)

But a plain old discretionary upgrade, other than for operational (usually overbooking) reasons, is best described as somewhere between extremely rare to vanishingly non-existent, rather than merely infrequent. I have never heard of one.
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