Heathrow Third Runway Approved by Parliament
Jun 18, 2019, 9:03 am
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Jun 18, 2019, 9:10 am
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How can it take 31 years to build a new terminal and a few carparks?
There's a lot of things that China can't do better, but building airports is surely something they could teach us a lot about: China to build 216 new airports by 2035
There's a lot of things that China can't do better, but building airports is surely something they could teach us a lot about: China to build 216 new airports by 2035
I wonder how much of it is actual construction and how much is time spent lining everyone's pockets and hand wringing.
Jun 18, 2019, 9:17 am
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How can it take 31 years to build a new terminal and a few carparks?
There's a lot of things that China can't do better, but building airports is surely something they could teach us a lot about: China to build 216 new airports by 2035
There's a lot of things that China can't do better, but building airports is surely something they could teach us a lot about: China to build 216 new airports by 2035
Jun 18, 2019, 9:18 am
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Interesting page about the final terminal and apron layout. As I understand it, the final terminal selection (excluding satellites) will be: T2, T4, T5, T5X. I really hope they don't rename them, just to confuse the tourists...
Jun 18, 2019, 9:18 am
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Seriously though, LHR has been a major London and world airport for decades. Who in their right mind buys a house near an airport and expect it to be quiet or that it won't want to expand and grow.
Jun 18, 2019, 9:22 am
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And how can it take 30 years to get to this point? This entire expansion plan started the discussion, debate, politics in 1990.
It really does put our current governance to shame in getting things done, especially as we built some of the worlds best infrastructure projects over the past few centuries, prior to 1990. Very sad that we haven’t done more in this time frame.
Jun 18, 2019, 10:45 am
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Planning Application objections, subsequent legal battles, and a combination of 8 rare newts and a wild orchid should stop it completely.
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China has a simpler scenario. “Stuff you”.
Jun 18, 2019, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by Deltus
Interesting page about the final terminal and apron layout. As I understand it, the final terminal selection (excluding satellites) will be: T2, T4, T5, T5X
Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 am
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Probably more than that, if the greens have already got things organised from their immediate circle of friends.
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Jun 18, 2019, 1:32 pm
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One cannot compare constructing a brand new airport on a greenfield site to expanding somewhere like LHR.
If LHR itself, the M4, and the M25 all were to close and be dedicated to construction traffic only, it would all be completed far more promptly.
The tricky thing is often maintaining operations at a site while at the same time building and expanding the same.
Witness the relative ease of building T5 to the complexities of T2.
If LHR itself, the M4, and the M25 all were to close and be dedicated to construction traffic only, it would all be completed far more promptly.
The tricky thing is often maintaining operations at a site while at the same time building and expanding the same.
Witness the relative ease of building T5 to the complexities of T2.
Jun 19, 2019, 11:59 am
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Jun 19, 2019, 12:19 pm
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The website mentions the expansion of T5B and T5C to the north and south and a reconfiguration of space in T5A to increase capacity. However this isn’t mentioned in the consultation document itself or in the timeline.
I’m speculating that this involves building out B&C to the extent originally envisaged and finding reconfiguring office space BA have vacated in T5A, as has mentioned in other threads. Maybe the unused lounge space in T5C might even be put into use?
What is clear from the timeline is that the airport wants flight numbers to grow before the third runway opens and that serious terminal capacity won’t follow until after the the runway opens. So in the medium term pressure on all the current terminals will increased with this plan.
I think it is a shame that the transit (presumably airside) between all the terminals except T4 that was floated in previous plans has been dropped. So even if T5/T5X/T5XN becomes a hub for one alliance a transfer from say T5C to T5XN will remain fiddly and probably involve buses.
I’m speculating that this involves building out B&C to the extent originally envisaged and finding reconfiguring office space BA have vacated in T5A, as has mentioned in other threads. Maybe the unused lounge space in T5C might even be put into use?
What is clear from the timeline is that the airport wants flight numbers to grow before the third runway opens and that serious terminal capacity won’t follow until after the the runway opens. So in the medium term pressure on all the current terminals will increased with this plan.
I think it is a shame that the transit (presumably airside) between all the terminals except T4 that was floated in previous plans has been dropped. So even if T5/T5X/T5XN becomes a hub for one alliance a transfer from say T5C to T5XN will remain fiddly and probably involve buses.
Jun 19, 2019, 12:31 pm
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Inter-T5 transfers
I wonder whether some form of surface tramway/people pods system might actually be workable? I know there are tons of baggage carts and other service vehicles already charging around the piers, but could it not be possible to integrate a relatively cheap surface pax transport system within that? Certainly easier/cheaper than digging more tunnels, for sure.