What’s up with G-CIVI’s tail?
May 31, 2018, 1:34 pm
#31
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Yikes -if it has really been like that for a month, it shows how far acceptable standards have come from the proud days of the Landor coat of arms. I appreciate that rudder balance is an issue on re-paint, but at least patch the tail cone! Doubtless it has been signed off as airworthy, but I hate to think how many thousands of air travellers have seen this and made a mental note - why bother with expensive brand advertising if this is what shows up on the front line?
Go home, so easy to be negative. Go to another airline, forum, whatever....
May 31, 2018, 3:49 pm
#32
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There are photos somewhere of some of the 747-100s before they were retired looking far worse in Landor livery and that was in the ‘hey day’. No big deal and no effect on safety, fully understandable given the Dreamliner situation that BA want a/c flying as much as possible, as any airline would.
May 31, 2018, 4:08 pm
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I think only Technical Block A is listed: https://historicengland.org.uk/listi...-entry/1268530 which now contains, among other things, the training facilities - flight simulators and cabin emergency training simulators.
May 31, 2018, 7:32 pm
#34
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I think criticism is fair. The livery represents the brand and, for whatever historical reason BA is the UK's flag carrier*, so it represents the UK at other airports. I think that this points to the fact that BA is running at maximum efficiency on airframes, which also means there is no flexibility to take one out of service for a few days for a partial paint job.
Sad times really.
*don't shoot the messenger
Sad times really.
*don't shoot the messenger
Jun 1, 2018, 12:13 am
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I think criticism is fair. The livery represents the brand and, for whatever historical reason BA is the UK's flag carrier*, so it represents the UK at other airports. I think that this points to the fact that BA is running at maximum efficiency on airframes, which also means there is no flexibility to take one out of service for a few days for a partial paint job.
Sad times really.
*don't shoot the messenger
Sad times really.
*don't shoot the messenger
Jun 1, 2018, 12:24 am
#37
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Yes, it is fair to some extent, and it does have a negative impact on the brand perception - but if it, as stated by another poster up-thread, has to do with eliminating all non-maintenance related down-time of the fleet while the 787 issues are still ongoing, I am sure most passengers would prefer as few cancellations as possible over planes being out of service for a paint job
Incidentally, from what I've read elsewhere, this is a rudder hydraulic leak, with Skydrol burning through the paintwork; Hard to clean off, and hard to prevent the damage re-occurring. I'm sure the leak is within tolerances, but having been in an RAF Hawk being forced to land with an indicated hydraulic leak, this still sounds terrifying.
Jun 1, 2018, 12:30 am
#38
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Oh, I agree 100%. I'm in the same industry, there is so much pressure for minimum downtime, while maintaining contingency, passing savings to airlines, paying correct wages, and the soft target is always non-essential maintenance.
Incidentally, from what I've read elsewhere, this is a rudder hydraulic leak, with Skydrol burning through the paintwork; Hard to clean off, and hard to prevent the damage re-occurring. I'm sure the leak is within tolerances, but having been in an RAF Hawk being forced to land with an indicated hydraulic leak, this still sounds terrifying.
Incidentally, from what I've read elsewhere, this is a rudder hydraulic leak, with Skydrol burning through the paintwork; Hard to clean off, and hard to prevent the damage re-occurring. I'm sure the leak is within tolerances, but having been in an RAF Hawk being forced to land with an indicated hydraulic leak, this still sounds terrifying.
I’m no technician, so this means that the aircraft may have been flying or landing without full rudder steering at some point. I agree , I imagine the pilots were quite concerned at the time.
Jun 1, 2018, 12:40 am
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Hearing the Pan certainly stopped my airsickness in a flash.
Jun 1, 2018, 1:09 am
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TBK is Timber Creek in Australia, which sounds like the home of a Crocodile Dundee sort of character, and TBJ is Tarbarka in Tunisia, apparently used by a single Tunisian airline. Not sure what they have to do with BA so can someone help me please?
Jun 1, 2018, 1:11 am
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Jun 1, 2018, 2:37 am
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Jun 1, 2018, 12:49 pm
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The aircraft has been checked over and is fully airworthy, it’s just a matter of finding time to take the aircraft out of service to be repainted but due to 787 issues there is a shortage of long haul aircraft.
Currently looking at either August or October swapping a 777 paint slot I believe
Currently looking at either August or October swapping a 777 paint slot I believe