Has anyone ever actual made Silver with 50 flights and not 600TP?
#31
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Not 50 flights, but last year I made Gold - only from ET flights (10TPs a time, sometimes 20TPs if I was lucky, and occasionally 5 TPs when I wasn't).
Now, if we were on a model where status was based on spend, I'd be CCR. LHR-CPH/ZRH return even in ET is not cheap when booked last minute.
Now, if we were on a model where status was based on spend, I'd be CCR. LHR-CPH/ZRH return even in ET is not cheap when booked last minute.
#32
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But in fairness WorldLux clearly qualified their statement with a "not necessarily"
So while you are clearly profitable to BA, could the same be said of someone weekly commuting e.g. ABZ - LHR and paying less than Ł75 for a return ticket in ET? I have difficulty seeing how they could be "extremely profitable"
So while you are clearly profitable to BA, could the same be said of someone weekly commuting e.g. ABZ - LHR and paying less than Ł75 for a return ticket in ET? I have difficulty seeing how they could be "extremely profitable"
#33
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Of course you are correct to say that you can get very cheap flights on the ABZ-LHR route, and on my personal travel I do (and also get excellent value for CE) and likely for weekly travellers it’s possible, but the route scores for BA by being able to charge a premium even on discounted economy closer to the time, even through the downturn in O&G. With LH pulled out of ABZ now and KLM tendency to cancel last minute leaving AF, the shear number of daily BA flights to ABZ shows it’s a very profitable route and even the Ł75 fares are a part of that.
PS, enjoy your upgrade per the other thread. Fingers crossed for another beep at the gate
#34
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So, as with the TP debate, there’s a bit of disparity between (shall I say?) three different groups: tickets bought by employer, or bought by independent contractor to be charged to Client, or just bought by individuals for leisure travel. Go ‘cash based’, on a fair system, and a lot of business pax will lose out, as will leisure pax, leaving only the small business owner/contractor in Gold.
Indeed, Leisure pax like us, spending c. Ł7k-10k p/a, would be out of the game altogether ... and thus have no ‘status’ reason to fly BA at all.
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Thanks for the info. It was a somewhat arbitrary route selection, more to illustrate the possibility of cheap fares as per the original point. I don't doubt (even with the downturn in O&G) it remains a profitable route for BA, and nor do I doubt BA are still making some small profit on a Ł75 fare. The point that I believe WorldLux was making is that while such fares may certainly be available on a profitable route, it is highly doubtful that such an individual customer could be said to be "extremely profitable" even if the route was. At the lowest end of the fare spectrum a decent raid on the Lounge could wipe it out, especially now the Silvers are back in
PS, enjoy your upgrade per the other thread. Fingers crossed for another beep at the gate
PS, enjoy your upgrade per the other thread. Fingers crossed for another beep at the gate
#36
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yes I totally get your point, I suppose it all comes down to how BA “Value” their customers, its not all down to revenue imo. Yes they like the big profitable long haulers, and have a reliance on corporate fares, but the regular flying discounted Y traveller also offers them value too, particularly if regular routings. They help provide a baseline of predictable flight loading, and while not maybe the most profitable will offer regular predictable cashflow to BA (and if a company doesn’t have cashflow it can make as much “profit” on the books as it wants but still go bust). So there are a number of ways that people can be valuable to BA now just how much profit they generate.
#37
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I've always wondered when I see. 600TP's or 50 flights on BA metal.
Got me thinking.... Has anyone ever made Silver through 50 flights while NOT making 600TP's? I just can't imagine it's possible? Even only flying Y.
Be interested if anyone has ever done it this way.
Got me thinking.... Has anyone ever made Silver through 50 flights while NOT making 600TP's? I just can't imagine it's possible? Even only flying Y.
Be interested if anyone has ever done it this way.
#38
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I think monkeyclassdonkey123 qualifies in that manner as his work only pays for HBO ET, and his flights are all LHR-ARN
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Always remember that EC qualification is generally based on your value to BA. I take 50+ longhaul flights per year, and for this I spend A LOT more with the airline then someone flying 50 shorthaul flights, which is why I am Gold. It's nice that BA rewards EC members with silver status after 50 sectors, but flying 50 Longhaul sectors is an entirely different financial proposition and rewarded accordingly.
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On this board the 5 annual holidays that @T8191 has is really not unusual. We are on number 3 this month, different continent each time, will have done 5 or 6 for me and 6 or 7 for mrs firstlight by the end of the year. Two Amex companion vouchers a year certainly helps...
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On this board the 5 annual holidays that @T8191 has is really not unusual. We are on number 3 this month, different continent each time, will have done 5 or 6 for me and 6 or 7 for mrs firstlight by the end of the year. Two Amex companion vouchers a year certainly helps...
On the flip side, I do plan to retire before I am 40 and fly only F from then onwards. Take each day at a time.