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Latam Premium Business Z-fare No Longer Eligible for TPs/Avios?

Latam Premium Business Z-fare No Longer Eligible for TPs/Avios?

Old May 17, 18, 11:39 am
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Latam Premium Business Z-fare No Longer Eligible for TPs/Avios?

Thinking of booking BOG-GRU (or BOG-SCL-GRU for additional points) in Premium Business as the difference is not so big on my dates ($250 more each way). These book into Z-class.

Now, they used to accrue 140 TPs on BA, but since Latam Chile and Brazil merged their booking systems, Class Z seems to have fallen off the eligible accrue fares (per BA's website). It's a normal revenue class, so any ideas if this is a fluke or it's viewed as a deeply discounted J product which should not accrue? Confusingly, it shows Z still accrues under TAM (but not Latam).

Who should I contact at BAEC to clarify?



Full TPs prior to May 11


No TPs after May 11
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Old May 17, 18, 11:50 am
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I believe its a deliberate change. I was looking at this last week for Frankfurt to Madrid
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Old May 17, 18, 4:58 pm
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It does look like it. What's weird is that BA award tickets in coach book into P-class on Latam, which earns TPs per Premium Economy. So for once that I'm willing to splurge on J I don't get any.
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Old May 17, 18, 7:15 pm
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I wonder if this has to do with TAM coming from Star Alliance where Z is discounted business, and LAN from OneWorld where Z is award first class. As they harmonize booking classes, Z will stop being a revenue booking class, and BA is just a bit early on the trigger?
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Old May 17, 18, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by RafKa View Post
It does look like it. What's weird is that BA award tickets in coach book into P-class on Latam, which earns TPs per Premium Economy. So for once that I'm willing to splurge on J I don't get any.

How certain are you on this? all the tickets I have on LAN on award tickets are all showing as T class for economy on Latam, Has this also changed?
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Old May 17, 18, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by cgtechuk View Post
How certain are you on this? all the tickets I have on LAN on award tickets are all showing as T class for economy on Latam, Has this also changed?
100%. Thatís what they booked into in the past (as I consistently got 100 TPs for AKL-SCL in coach on at least rtn trips over the last 2-3 years) but perhaps itís changed over the last 6 months? I currently have a few active BA award bookings on Latam but I donít know where to check the booking class?
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Old May 17, 18, 8:51 pm
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This is really annoying and I hope an error on the part of BA similar to when R class fares on QR were tagged as ineligible for TPs and Avios. They later fixed the chart. I made several Latam bookings last month that fall into the Z bucket but I won't be flying them until the end of the year. If I had thought BA was going to pull a stunt like this I would have booked with Avianca and topped up my Star Alliance balance instead.

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Old May 17, 18, 9:34 pm
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Sounds similar to what I experienced earlier in the year on a BA ticket via KUL in I-class with an onward MH connection. Apparently I-class on MH is not eligible for even reduced TPs/Avios, whereas even a discounted economy ticket will be! Quite disappointing - surely even a discounted business class fare should earn more than the cheapest eligible Economy given the price tag.
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Old May 17, 18, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by SKT-DK View Post
Sounds similar to what I experienced earlier in the year on a BA ticket via KUL in I-class with an onward MH connection. Apparently I-class on MH is not eligible for even reduced TPs/Avios, whereas even a discounted economy ticket will be! Quite disappointing - surely even a discounted business class fare should earn more than the cheapest eligible Economy given the price tag.
MH I fares have been an issue on many OW programs for a long while now. If you bid for an upgrade on MH it reissues in I (or used to) which then makes earnings zero.
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I got Z avios and tier points from flights last week. Even bigger shocker.. they posted automatically!
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Old May 18, 18, 4:22 am
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I got Z avios and tier points from flights last week. Even bigger shocker.. they posted automatically!
The cut off was the 11th. When did you fly, and when did they post?
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Old May 18, 18, 4:59 am
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Originally Posted by Bobbex View Post
This is really annoying and I hope an error on the part of BA similar to when R class fares on QR were tagged as ineligible for TPs and Avios. They later fixed the chart. I made several Latam bookings last month that fall into the Z bucket but I won't be flying them until the end of the year. If I had thought BA was going to pull a stunt like this I would have booked with Avianca and topped up my Star Alliance balance instead.

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Is there a department at BAEC one could call for clarification? I wanted to pull the trigger on those flights soon. Otherwise, like you, Iíll be looking at Avianca instead which is actually more convenient for my needs.
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On the positive side - and I hadn't noticed that BA was changing earning rates for LA/JJ (thanks for pointing it out) - Economy earning rates have improved. Really good to see that A fare is now eligible for earning (I've missed out on a few of those in the past year), and quite a few fare classes moved up to 50% earnings.
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer View Post
The cut off was the 11th. When did you fly, and when did they post?
10th May! That was close then. Anyway, apologies.. I didn't read the thread in it's fullest to realise there had been a cutoff.

Presumably they would honour TPs for tickets issued before the changes were announced? Or not?
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Old May 18, 18, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by Schwann View Post
10th May! That was close then. Anyway, apologies.. I didn't read the thread in it's fullest to realise there had been a cutoff.

Presumably they would honour TPs for tickets issued before the changes were announced? Or not?
Airlines generally don't honour tickets purchased before the announced changes Maybe BA is generous?
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