Do all Ba 787's have this RR engine issue?

Old May 10, 18, 6:54 am
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Do all Ba 787's have this RR engine issue?

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No, a subset AFAIK but not sure exactly which. another more knowledgable person will be along shortly
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Old May 10, 18, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by dnajockey View Post
No, a subset AFAIK but not sure exactly which. another more knowledgable person will be along shortly
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Has there been a successful EC261/MCOL/CEDR claim against this 787/RR issue yet? I assume not, but my finger was getting tired scrolling through the compensation thread!
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Is it just the 788's or the 789's as well?
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it's more so the 789 is my understanding
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This seems to indicate 789: 12 Major Airlines Face New Boeing 787 Dreamliner Restrictions... - God Save The Points
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The issue only faces Rolls Royce Trent 1000 Package C engines, which I believe are mostly found in the 787-9s. RR claims there are 380 of these engines in service, so clearly not all 787-9s, as there have been something like 350 deliveries from Boeing to date.
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Thanks.
Can any of you knowledgeable people on here shed any more light?
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Originally Posted by Grande Annee View Post
Thanks.
Can any of you knowledgeable people on here shed any more light?
BA has 17 787-900s in the fleet and 9 787-800s in the fleet. Also see here.

CAPA says that 18 BA aircraft have the problematic RR Trent 1000 Package C engines.

How those 18 aircraft are divided amongst the 788s and 789s, I don't know. My guess would be all the 789s and one of the later 788s.
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It looks like BA's 788's are fine, it is the 789's that need checking
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From an article on the front page of FT:

"The directive included 787-8 and 787-9 Boeing aircraft outfitted with Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 Series Engines." and

"According to ch-aviation, the most recent restrictions will affect nearly a dozen carriers including British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Norwegian, LATAM, Thai Airways, Avianca, Air New Zealand, Air Europa, LOT, Ethiopian, Royal Brunei and Scoot. In August of 2016, All Nippon Airways announced it would replace the Rolls Royce engines on all 50 of the Dreamliners in its fleet citing “multiple engine problems” eerily similar to those described in the latest AD."
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Originally Posted by Grande Annee View Post
It looks like BA's 788's are fine, it is the 789's that need checking
That's not mathematically possible if 18 BA 787 aircraft have the problematic engines, and BA only has 17 787-900s.
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Originally Posted by DutchessPDX View Post
From an article on the front page of FT:

"The directive included 787-8 and 787-9 Boeing aircraft outfitted with Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 Series Engines." and

"According to ch-aviation, the most recent restrictions will affect nearly a dozen carriers including British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Norwegian, LATAM, Thai Airways, Avianca, Air New Zealand, Air Europa, LOT, Ethiopian, Royal Brunei and Scoot. In August of 2016, All Nippon Airways announced it would replace the Rolls Royce engines on all 50 of the Dreamliners in its fleet citing “multiple engine problems” eerily similar to those described in the latest AD."
Stupid Question Time.
Do you know if this means with other RR engines, as in Trent 1000 without the issues, or do you think this means with other engines, say Engine Alliance ones? Can that even be done? Presumably the engine connections are manufacturer specific?
Would a plane have to have matching engines, would a series C and a series E be OK on the same plane? I'd assume you wouldn't buy them that way but over time do some engines get replaced with new models as needed, or if you do that do you have to do it to both engines?

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There is more than 1 Airworthiness Directive (AD) for the Trent 1000 at this time.

If we are looking at the AD - Engine Intermediate Pressure Compressor Blades / Shaft – Inspection (2018-0084R1 Dated 19 April 2018 ) then the following are affected;

Trent 1000-A2, Trent 1000-AE2, Trent 1000-C2, Trent 1000-CE2, Trent 1000-D2, Trent 1000-E2, Trent 1000-G2, Trent 1000-H2, Trent 1000-J2, Trent 1000-K2 and Trent 1000-L2 engines, all serial numbers.

From what I can gather this affects all but one 787-8 (G-ZBKR) and 1 787-9 (G-ZBJI)

https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2018-0084R1 refers
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